1 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:05,830 [Music] 2 00:02:10,110 --> 00:02:07,190 the smoke radio 3 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:10,120 for the masses headline edition july 8 4 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:11,760 1947 5 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:13,520 the army air force's has announced that 6 00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:15,599 a flying bist has been found and 7 00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:17,920 is now in the possession of the army if 8 00:02:22,470 --> 00:02:19,120 the game is rigged 9 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:22,480 change the game game changer 10 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:25,599 i occasionally think how quickly our 11 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:27,680 differences worldwide 12 00:02:31,430 --> 00:02:30,720 would vanish if we were facing an alien 13 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:31,440 threat 14 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:40,630 this is fade to black with your host 15 00:02:44,309 --> 00:02:41,760 jimmy church 16 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:44,319 on the game changer radio network and 17 00:02:50,229 --> 00:02:45,360 kgra 18 00:02:53,229 --> 00:02:50,239 the global radio alliance 19 00:02:59,270 --> 00:02:53,239 i need your help to get to the year 20 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:01,270 you are listening to fate to flag with 21 00:03:08,149 --> 00:03:04,190 jimmy church on the game changer network 22 00:03:12,710 --> 00:03:08,159 [Music] 23 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:12,720 good evening all right fade to block 24 00:03:19,930 --> 00:03:16,840 bespoke radio for 25 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:25,110 [Music] 26 00:03:32,470 --> 00:03:28,430 how you doing today is monday may 24th 27 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:32,480 2021 145 days into the new year 28 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:35,680 only 220 days left let's do this 29 00:03:38,380 --> 00:03:36,480 man 30 00:03:39,060 --> 00:03:38,390 [Music] 31 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:39,070 [Applause] 32 00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:39,930 [Music] 33 00:03:47,509 --> 00:03:46,380 we are live from a bunker 34 00:03:50,309 --> 00:03:47,519 [Music] 35 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:50,319 somewhere in the middle of nowhere a 36 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:51,120 total 37 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:54,400 undisclosed location 38 00:04:00,070 --> 00:03:56,879 but it's beautiful it really is good to 39 00:04:01,509 --> 00:04:00,080 be back 40 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:01,519 i would like to welcome everybody 41 00:04:05,429 --> 00:04:03,200 listening all around the world all 42 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:05,439 across the united states 43 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:07,360 hither and tether to and fro back and 44 00:04:15,509 --> 00:04:09,280 forth up and down east and west 45 00:04:17,749 --> 00:04:15,519 north and south far and near 46 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:17,759 this is fade to block for kjccr of the 47 00:04:21,749 --> 00:04:20,320 game changer network and kgra the 48 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:21,759 planets 49 00:04:25,749 --> 00:04:23,680 i'm here with jimmy church what is 50 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:25,759 cracking everybody hello to 51 00:04:33,510 --> 00:04:29,120 all of you bunker camp 52 00:04:39,189 --> 00:04:33,520 kgra facebook youtube 53 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:41,110 what's cracking everybody how you doing 54 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:42,720 all right 55 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:45,840 i'm going to let all of you know 56 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:50,000 that this morning i was up at 5 00 57 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:55,040 a.m i'm gonna go with three hours sleep 58 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:00,230 three and a half hours sleep got to bed 59 00:05:05,590 --> 00:05:02,560 about one in the morning 60 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:05,600 and uh up at five and uh 61 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:09,440 been flying all day and uh i got uh to 62 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:10,400 the bunker 63 00:05:17,270 --> 00:05:13,600 uh today at about uh 3 30 64 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:17,280 whew in the afternoon immediately uh 65 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:20,320 jumped into work and uh uh 66 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:22,080 doing all of the stuff that i normally 67 00:05:27,029 --> 00:05:24,880 do all weekend long uh compressed all of 68 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:27,039 that into just a couple of hours but i'm 69 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:28,000 here 70 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:31,120 and uh ready to go we've got an amazing 71 00:05:35,189 --> 00:05:32,639 week in front of us 72 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:35,199 um i i you know i'm going to say this a 73 00:05:37,990 --> 00:05:36,560 couple of times tonight and i'm going to 74 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:38,000 do it in a little bit 75 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:40,160 but i'm going to say this really quick 76 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:42,160 and i and i mean this 77 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:44,560 i want to thank all of you uh for your 78 00:05:48,710 --> 00:05:45,520 energy and 79 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:48,720 your support your comments and and 80 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:49,440 everything 81 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:51,759 uh over this past week it's been a very 82 00:05:54,710 --> 00:05:52,720 trying time but 83 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:54,720 i really appreciate it my family 84 00:05:59,430 --> 00:05:56,240 appreciates it 85 00:06:02,629 --> 00:05:59,440 and uh and they saw all of it and 86 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:02,639 it means a lot to me and uh we 87 00:06:07,110 --> 00:06:06,400 needed it okay and uh there you go i 88 00:06:09,270 --> 00:06:07,120 think i 89 00:06:10,629 --> 00:06:09,280 i posted earlier today and i'm not going 90 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:10,639 to go 91 00:06:16,469 --> 00:06:14,080 into this at length at all uh maybe as 92 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:16,479 time goes on i just got another text 93 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:19,520 uh from my mom now um 94 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:22,240 uh right before the show i'm like mom 95 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:22,560 i'm 96 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:26,240 literally uh going on the air 97 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:29,680 um uh i i just want to let everybody 98 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:30,080 know 99 00:06:37,590 --> 00:06:34,240 um my i have two moms 100 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:37,600 i have two dads i was adopted 101 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:40,800 okay just just so everybody understands 102 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:44,160 my real mother uh phyllis 103 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:47,039 she passed away uh as as everybody knows 104 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:48,000 a few 105 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:50,080 few years ago about four years ago now 106 00:06:55,589 --> 00:06:52,160 that was my real mom 107 00:06:58,629 --> 00:06:55,599 um who i hadn't seen 108 00:07:02,150 --> 00:06:58,639 in 40 years i 109 00:07:05,830 --> 00:07:02,160 i i haven't i hadn't seen her 110 00:07:07,589 --> 00:07:05,840 uh since i was a young kid and 111 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:07,599 i didn't get a chance to see her before 112 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:09,680 she passed away i tried 113 00:07:14,629 --> 00:07:13,120 um but uh there you go but i was adopted 114 00:07:17,749 --> 00:07:14,639 everybody i was adopted so 115 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:17,759 i have uh two family i have my my 116 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,800 my birth family my and and and my 117 00:07:25,749 --> 00:07:22,319 brothers and sisters and everything 118 00:07:28,629 --> 00:07:25,759 but i was adopted and uh 119 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:28,639 and this is my adopted mom uh her name 120 00:07:34,469 --> 00:07:30,960 is sharon she's the best 121 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:34,479 um um and that's who just texted me so 122 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:35,199 when you hear 123 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:38,800 i thought jimmy's mom died well she did 124 00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:42,400 but that was my real mom so um it's my 125 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:44,479 adopted father john 126 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:48,080 uh who i rushed home to see this week 127 00:07:52,070 --> 00:07:50,560 and again i keep all of my private life 128 00:07:54,790 --> 00:07:52,080 private and 129 00:07:56,629 --> 00:07:54,800 and and things like that it's you know 130 00:07:59,830 --> 00:07:56,639 that that's my life and 131 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:59,840 i don't share these things um uh with 132 00:08:01,990 --> 00:08:00,400 anybody 133 00:08:04,550 --> 00:08:02,000 really i mean it's just my it's my 134 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:04,560 private life okay so anyway 135 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:08,000 um just so you guys maybe understand 136 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:10,560 in the future what i'm talking about you 137 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:11,199 know 138 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:13,680 you you'll understand what's going on 139 00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:15,440 again i've been up since five 140 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:17,280 i've been flying and traveling and 141 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:19,120 changing planes and driving and doing 142 00:08:22,629 --> 00:08:20,400 all those things today 143 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:22,639 but i'm good i'm good i'm good i want to 144 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:24,639 thank all of you for your support 145 00:08:31,189 --> 00:08:27,680 all right tonight this is a 146 00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:31,199 very big show part of 147 00:08:34,709 --> 00:08:33,599 a huge week here on fade to black 148 00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:34,719 tonight 149 00:08:41,110 --> 00:08:37,919 danny sheehan is with us now we 150 00:08:43,829 --> 00:08:41,120 we uh have been following um 151 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:43,839 a lot of this drama and stuff and rumors 152 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:46,160 and things and stuff and claims 153 00:08:50,070 --> 00:08:47,839 that have gone down over the last 10 154 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:50,080 days uh in this community 155 00:08:53,110 --> 00:08:52,240 danny sheehan has found himself right in 156 00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:53,120 the middle of 157 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:56,320 all of this and uh i called him last 158 00:09:00,710 --> 00:08:58,320 week i said man it's going down he said 159 00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:00,720 it is i said okay you ready to talk 160 00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:03,200 jimmy i said i am danny are you he said 161 00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:04,640 let's do it 162 00:09:10,870 --> 00:09:08,640 first crack at it is today monday so 163 00:09:11,829 --> 00:09:10,880 there you go danny sheen is with us 164 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:11,839 tonight it's going to be a great 165 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:13,200 conversation you stay right there 166 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:14,640 tomorrow night 167 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:17,920 live from roswell new mexico 168 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:21,600 don schmidt is with us with a very big 169 00:09:26,870 --> 00:09:23,279 announcement tomorrow night 170 00:09:30,790 --> 00:09:26,880 wednesday night sean stone 171 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:30,800 that's right sean stone is with us and 172 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:34,000 uh he's going to be discussing his new 173 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:36,240 film which is called best kept secrets 174 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:37,040 and 175 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:41,360 this film uh sean's the the director 176 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:44,720 uh is going to premiere at ufo megacon 177 00:09:48,310 --> 00:09:46,320 so we're going to be talking about this 178 00:09:51,670 --> 00:09:48,320 wednesday night very excited about this 179 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:51,680 sean is out of country um 180 00:09:57,269 --> 00:09:54,959 he will be back in country tomorrow 181 00:09:59,670 --> 00:09:57,279 wednesday he's on with us here on fade 182 00:10:03,110 --> 00:09:59,680 to black and then of course 183 00:10:05,269 --> 00:10:03,120 thursday night this week will be fader 184 00:10:06,710 --> 00:10:05,279 night i promise you we haven't had fader 185 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:06,720 night now for two weeks 186 00:10:10,949 --> 00:10:10,160 three weeks incredible but we will do 187 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:10,959 that 188 00:10:17,670 --> 00:10:14,720 this friday or this this this 189 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:17,680 this thursday night will be a fader 190 00:10:20,069 --> 00:10:18,079 night 191 00:10:21,750 --> 00:10:20,079 all right let me get straight to it i am 192 00:10:24,069 --> 00:10:21,760 going to be at ufo megacon 193 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:24,079 it is june 6th through the 12th in 194 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:25,360 laughlin nevada 195 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:27,040 i want everybody to go get your ticket 196 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:28,880 sean stone's going to be there 197 00:10:31,870 --> 00:10:30,640 um i want you to go get your tickets 198 00:10:34,190 --> 00:10:31,880 click on the banners over 199 00:10:35,750 --> 00:10:34,200 jimmychurchradio.com it's 200 00:10:37,590 --> 00:10:35,760 laughlinufomegaconference.com 201 00:10:39,269 --> 00:10:37,600 go and get your tickets alive in person 202 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:39,279 conference it's going to be awesome 203 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:43,200 seven days and i will see all of you 204 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:46,240 there i posted up today um 205 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:49,519 another conference that uh i'm doing 206 00:10:56,949 --> 00:10:53,440 uh with linda multan howe nick pope 207 00:11:00,230 --> 00:10:56,959 richard dolan billy carson and myself 208 00:11:02,710 --> 00:11:00,240 and this is a 10 hour event 209 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:02,720 it's actually 11 because we are going to 210 00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:03,920 do a round table 211 00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:07,360 at the end of the 10 hours with all five 212 00:11:11,350 --> 00:11:08,959 of us together 213 00:11:12,069 --> 00:11:11,360 um i've got all the links up and it is 214 00:11:15,350 --> 00:11:12,079 july 215 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:15,360 17th which is a saturday it's a big 216 00:11:18,550 --> 00:11:16,079 event 217 00:11:19,190 --> 00:11:18,560 now um i know everybody wants to do live 218 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:19,200 events 219 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:21,200 and that's what i'm all about but this 220 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:22,880 particular event 221 00:11:26,829 --> 00:11:25,760 is uh would have always been online this 222 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:26,839 is a very 223 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:29,920 special presentation where it's called 224 00:11:33,190 --> 00:11:31,360 the best of the best 225 00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:33,200 so with nick and with linda and with 226 00:11:37,910 --> 00:11:35,279 richard and billy and myself 227 00:11:39,750 --> 00:11:37,920 we're all going to do a two-hour 228 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:39,760 presentation 229 00:11:44,710 --> 00:11:42,720 it's the best of the best this is going 230 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:44,720 to be an incredible event 231 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:47,360 to have all five of us at one place is 232 00:11:50,470 --> 00:11:49,120 uh it's gonna be extraordinary and i 233 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:50,480 cannot wait for that 234 00:11:54,150 --> 00:11:52,639 i've got all of the links up and i'll be 235 00:11:57,990 --> 00:11:54,160 uh letting you know 236 00:11:59,430 --> 00:11:58,000 more about it later okay all right 237 00:12:01,670 --> 00:11:59,440 you know what let's just get straight to 238 00:12:02,470 --> 00:12:01,680 it let's get straight to it let's get to 239 00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:02,480 uh 240 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,000 let's get to the breaking news you can 241 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:06,480 follow me on twitter at jchurchradio 242 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:10,240 hashtag f2b is the sandbox hashtag f2bq 243 00:12:15,150 --> 00:12:12,000 is fade to black questions 244 00:12:16,629 --> 00:12:15,160 of course email is jimmy 245 00:12:18,629 --> 00:12:16,639 jimmychurchradio.com 246 00:12:20,470 --> 00:12:18,639 all right let's get to the breaking news 247 00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:20,480 this happened right before the show 248 00:12:25,269 --> 00:12:22,480 tonight an aircraft 249 00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:25,279 operated by a contractor crashed after 250 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:26,000 it took off 251 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:29,200 from nellis air force base 252 00:12:33,829 --> 00:12:32,160 in las vegas nevada the aircraft crashed 253 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:33,839 at about 2 30 p.m 254 00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:36,000 uh earlier this afternoon that's pacific 255 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:37,440 time right before the show 256 00:12:42,710 --> 00:12:40,880 near the southern edge of nellis 257 00:12:44,550 --> 00:12:42,720 multiple federal and local first 258 00:12:46,949 --> 00:12:44,560 responders are currently 259 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:46,959 on the scene but no information was 260 00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:48,320 immediately available 261 00:12:53,509 --> 00:12:51,120 of everything the cause of the crash the 262 00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:53,519 status of the pilot who it was potential 263 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:54,720 injuries on the ground 264 00:13:01,110 --> 00:12:57,920 we've got nothing all they have told us 265 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:01,120 is that the incident quote incident 266 00:13:06,150 --> 00:13:04,800 is under investigation oh man i can't 267 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:06,160 wait to get more on this 268 00:13:11,590 --> 00:13:10,000 a missing fisherman has been found alive 269 00:13:14,710 --> 00:13:11,600 after spending 17 270 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:14,720 nights in the oregon wilderness 271 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:17,760 oregon his name harry 272 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:21,120 burleigh he's from rose book uh rose 273 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:21,680 book 274 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:25,680 rose bud rosenberg oregon 275 00:13:30,629 --> 00:13:27,920 was reported missing the evening of may 276 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:30,639 7th by his wife stacy after he failed to 277 00:13:35,829 --> 00:13:32,720 return home from a camping trip 278 00:13:38,069 --> 00:13:35,839 in the tocati area now 279 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:38,079 uh he's 69 years old and he was 280 00:13:41,269 --> 00:13:39,120 originally 281 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:41,279 due to arrive home the day before 282 00:13:45,030 --> 00:13:42,480 according to 283 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:45,040 a may 9th news release from the douglas 284 00:13:50,710 --> 00:13:47,040 county sheriff's office 285 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:50,720 but he's back he's safe 17 286 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:53,360 days in the wilderness that's crazy 287 00:13:57,829 --> 00:13:54,560 that's nuts 288 00:14:00,470 --> 00:13:57,839 well this went down all weekend 289 00:14:01,990 --> 00:14:00,480 and the chatter about it well it was 290 00:14:04,389 --> 00:14:02,000 kind of heating up also over 291 00:14:06,110 --> 00:14:04,399 the last couple of weeks but the prices 292 00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:06,120 of bitcoin 293 00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:09,360 dogecoin and other digital currencies 294 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:10,480 have completely 295 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:13,600 plunged right now as of today it's 296 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:17,120 they've all dived uh over 40 percent in 297 00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:19,680 recent weeks investors and analysts are 298 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:21,519 particularly irked 299 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:23,839 by all of the cryptocurrencies that have 300 00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:25,680 been rising and falling with bitcoin and 301 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:26,800 dogecoin 302 00:14:32,470 --> 00:14:30,720 in part due to elon musk 303 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:32,480 that's what they're saying that he's 304 00:14:36,389 --> 00:14:34,560 been flip-flopping and he's been making 305 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:36,399 these remarks about them 306 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:39,360 specifically on twitter some crypto 307 00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:41,040 investors are also annoyed to put it 308 00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:42,320 mildly that 309 00:14:49,189 --> 00:14:45,519 a comment from musk can move 310 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:49,199 prices wildly 311 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:51,760 tesla did not respond to requests for 312 00:14:56,389 --> 00:14:54,000 comment about musk's thoughts on bitcoin 313 00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:56,399 dogecoin and other cryptocurrencies 314 00:15:03,269 --> 00:14:59,839 but elon hasn't been silent on twitter 315 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:03,279 and for the time being now he sounds 316 00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:06,480 bullish now much of the crypto community 317 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:10,079 is pleading with elon right now to stop 318 00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:13,760 tweeting i'm not making this up 319 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:16,959 it's absolutely incredible now 320 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:18,880 he's got a big he's got a big base but 321 00:15:24,829 --> 00:15:20,880 he's also smart 322 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:24,839 and he's got a lot of people that 323 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:27,600 do what he says 324 00:15:32,069 --> 00:15:30,560 they trust they believe right he says 325 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:32,079 dogecoin they go and 326 00:15:36,150 --> 00:15:34,639 jump in right he says bitcoin they go 327 00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:36,160 and jump in 328 00:15:42,069 --> 00:15:39,440 and now a lot of uh 329 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:42,079 a lot of elon's followers have lost a 330 00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:43,680 lot of money 331 00:15:47,470 --> 00:15:45,279 it's it's crazy don't know if it's going 332 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:47,480 to recover it's down to 30 grand it was 333 00:15:52,829 --> 00:15:48,800 64 334 00:15:55,749 --> 00:15:52,839 000 like four weeks ago 335 00:15:57,350 --> 00:15:55,759 incredible well let's see what have i 336 00:15:59,829 --> 00:15:57,360 got up next scientists 337 00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:59,839 this is crazy scientists have discovered 338 00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:00,959 the most ancient 339 00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:04,480 spiral galaxy ever observed 340 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:07,600 the galaxy dates back 12.4 341 00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:09,920 billion years ago and it bears a family 342 00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:12,160 resemblance to 343 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:15,199 us the milky way 344 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:20,800 it's galaxy bri 1335-0417 345 00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:24,160 a galaxy that dates back 12.4 billion 346 00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:25,279 years ago 347 00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:29,279 at just 1.4 billion years after the big 348 00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:32,000 bang this makes it the most ancient 349 00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:32,959 galaxy 350 00:16:42,430 --> 00:16:36,160 of its kind ever discovered 351 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:43,829 1335-0417 352 00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:45,680 may have gotten a head start on its 353 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:46,880 spiral arms 354 00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:50,560 due to a cosmic collision 355 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:53,680 with another galaxy 356 00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:55,600 it's incredible incredible all of this 357 00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:56,720 thanks to hubble let's 358 00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:59,440 uh get the show cracking happy birthday 359 00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:01,839 to today 360 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:05,919 john c riley gotta do it 361 00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:07,760 i don't even know what my favorite john 362 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:10,880 c riley movie is he's so funny he's so 363 00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:12,000 good 364 00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:15,520 uh magnolia maybe 365 00:17:19,590 --> 00:17:19,120 magnolia played the cop played the got 366 00:17:23,189 --> 00:17:19,600 bob 367 00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:23,199 dylan today is 80. 368 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:26,799 priscilla presley today is 76 369 00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:30,960 tommy chong today is 83 370 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:33,440 and guitarist wadi wachel one of my 371 00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:34,480 favorites 372 00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:37,760 today wadi is 74 years old he never did 373 00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:38,880 cut that hair 374 00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:42,160 he kept those he kept those locks 375 00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:43,919 he kept those locks our dead guy's 376 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:45,679 birthday today is moment of silence 377 00:17:49,230 --> 00:17:46,000 please 378 00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:49,240 for heavy d 379 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:52,799 1967 to 2011 died at the age of 44. 380 00:17:59,750 --> 00:17:56,320 heavy d was the leader of heavy d 381 00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:59,760 and the boys in 1989 heavy deep 382 00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:01,039 performed as a 383 00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:04,640 a a guest singer and he wrapped on janet 384 00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:05,600 jackson's hit 385 00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:09,360 single all right a very very 386 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:12,559 early example of rap in a pop song 387 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:15,440 in 1992 he appeared on michael jackson's 388 00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:16,640 single 389 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:19,679 jam and also sang the theme songs for 390 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:21,520 the television programs 391 00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:24,960 in living color and mad tv 392 00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:28,000 heavy d died on november 8 2011 walked 393 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:31,679 out of his house collapsed at his home 394 00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:35,760 in beverly hills california um aneurysm 395 00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:37,679 that's it that's what it that's what did 396 00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:41,039 it at the age of 44. 397 00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:43,280 happy birthday heavy d on this day in 398 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:46,799 history otd 1844 399 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:50,400 samuel morris that's right 400 00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:54,480 morse code demonstrates the telegraph 401 00:19:01,909 --> 00:18:57,520 with the message quote what 402 00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:01,919 have god wrought 403 00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:05,440 that's right 1844 right 404 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:12,230 got a good one today they're all good 405 00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:13,600 they're all good 406 00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:18,559 but not as good as this one in 2004 407 00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:22,320 the poor sisters of claire 408 00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:26,240 which were eight elderly belgium nuns 409 00:19:32,789 --> 00:19:29,760 the poor sisters of claire look it up 410 00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:32,799 sold their convent 411 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:36,640 without permission that's right without 412 00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:38,080 permission from the church nobody 413 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:42,320 knew and they sold it for 1.4 414 00:19:48,789 --> 00:19:45,520 million dollars and they used the money 415 00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:48,799 to buy a castle in france 416 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:52,320 racehorses and a bunch of luxury cars 417 00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:55,760 including a mercedes 418 00:20:03,110 --> 00:19:59,120 with a bar that's right 419 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:03,120 the poor sisters of claire 420 00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:06,000 oh man look it up that is one of the 421 00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:07,919 best fader facts i can whip out that's a 422 00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:09,440 good one tonight 423 00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,679 very special guest danny sheen is here 424 00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:13,039 we have 425 00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:14,880 the the timing couldn't be better not 426 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:17,120 only with danny being with us tonight 427 00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:18,880 but with everything that is going on 428 00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:20,799 right now in the ufo community 429 00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:23,360 and danny has found himself in the 430 00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:25,200 middle of this and tonight 431 00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:26,720 i'm just gonna you know i told danny 432 00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:30,720 before the show i said danny 433 00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:33,520 we got stuff to talk jimmy ask me 434 00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:35,520 anything 435 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:38,159 don't don't hold back and that's the way 436 00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:39,280 it's always been 437 00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:42,400 uh with danny and i and every guest on 438 00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:45,679 this show so that is gonna go down here 439 00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:47,760 in about 10 minutes danny sheen is 440 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:49,840 joining us tomorrow night live from 441 00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:52,080 roswell new mexico the one and only don 442 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:52,559 schmidt 443 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:55,520 is back and then wednesday night sean 444 00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:56,320 stone 445 00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:59,440 he's flying in on a private jet 446 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:01,360 just to be on fade to black on wednesday 447 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:02,640 night and 448 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:04,320 we're going to talk about his new film 449 00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,400 and it's called best kept secrets and 450 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:08,960 it is going to premiere at the ufo 451 00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:09,760 megacon 452 00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,960 in laughlin nevada thursday is another 453 00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:14,880 fader night with open lines 454 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:17,039 all night long all right all right let 455 00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:20,000 me hit this river moon coffee 456 00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:32,070 river rivermoonwellness.com 457 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:35,039 i like my coffee doc i've been up since 458 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:37,210 5 a.m folks 459 00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:39,360 [Laughter] 460 00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:42,840 yeah man 461 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:46,559 flying flying for seven hours today 462 00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:53,110 flights were packed though no no empty 463 00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:54,000 center seats 464 00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:57,919 new i took four flights this past week 465 00:22:02,789 --> 00:21:58,880 everyone 466 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:02,799 packed 467 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:05,600 everybody had a mask on it was trippy 468 00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:07,440 trippy okay 469 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,679 all right i said this earlier i said i 470 00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:11,039 was gonna do it again 471 00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:13,120 i want to thank all of you for all of 472 00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:15,200 the positive energy that you sent my 473 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,400 family over the weekend 474 00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:19,200 much appreciated that stuff always works 475 00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:19,600 man 476 00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,799 it does and i will always try to keep my 477 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,159 personal life private 478 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:27,360 but let me say this i was able to visit 479 00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:28,480 with my father 480 00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:31,200 john uh who adopted me and brought me 481 00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,640 into his family and 482 00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:34,720 was always there for me when i needed 483 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:35,840 him and 484 00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:38,960 i know that uh not everyone 485 00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:42,960 gets the opportunity to be there during 486 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:43,520 this 487 00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:47,440 type of difficult time right 488 00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:50,159 you don't sometimes things happen 489 00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:50,799 suddenly 490 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:53,120 and you don't get the chance to do and 491 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,720 say the things that you 492 00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:56,880 want and need to do right and you miss 493 00:23:03,590 --> 00:22:59,919 that opportunity but i did 494 00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:03,600 and for that i am forever grateful 495 00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:06,640 but uh here's the deal he was just a 496 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:09,520 great guy he's just a great guy 497 00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:12,240 and he's still with us by the way i'm 498 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:12,640 saying 499 00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:16,640 was oh man 500 00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:19,200 uh i don't want to lose it on the air 501 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:19,760 but 502 00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:24,400 share with all of you 503 00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:27,440 that we 504 00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:31,039 we really didn't have any issues that 505 00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:35,919 needed to be dealt with and that's rare 506 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:36,880 we pretty much 507 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,960 dealt with things as they happened over 508 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:40,080 the years 509 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:43,120 and even that stuff uh 510 00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:46,799 wasn't that dramatic so 511 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,880 i was very lucky i was a very lucky kid 512 00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:53,120 he's a great man great man still with 513 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:54,080 this 514 00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:57,279 still with us tonight he is 515 00:24:01,510 --> 00:24:00,720 and uh uh if anything changes this week 516 00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:01,520 i'll uh 517 00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,200 let you guys know okay but um 518 00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:07,919 yeah we didn't have any issues not i 519 00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,159 mean we did 520 00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,400 but just looking back we were talking 521 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:14,559 all weekend you know me and my brothers 522 00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:15,520 and my mom 523 00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,310 we kind of laughed at those issues it's 524 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:26,159 just lucky 525 00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:29,760 but uh but i'll say this i think i 526 00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,840 messed up his really nice yamaha 527 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:33,840 turntable 528 00:24:39,669 --> 00:24:38,320 his ypd 71 i still know the model number 529 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:39,679 to this day 530 00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:43,200 his ypd71 look it up post a picture 531 00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:46,320 that was yamaha's top shelf still is 532 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,200 top shelf turntable man ypd71 i messed 533 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:50,640 it up 534 00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:54,880 and and i never came clean about it 535 00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:58,000 i didn't i didn't i just left it right 536 00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:00,960 and he was out of town came back and 537 00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:03,200 i remember he went to drop a needle on a 538 00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:04,799 record that he did every night 539 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:07,120 sat in his chair with his headphones on 540 00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:08,080 and 541 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:11,440 man 542 00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:17,039 and uh he fixed it it was all good but 543 00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,880 but i think he probably knew and just 544 00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:20,880 didn't say anything 545 00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:24,000 and uh he was just that uh kind of man 546 00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:25,679 and i'm saying that past tense now 547 00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:27,679 because that's the way that's where i 548 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:30,960 am uh but uh there you go 549 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:33,760 there you go i messed up his turntable 550 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,240 that ypd71 anyway 551 00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:38,799 all right moving on i just i had to come 552 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:40,840 clean on that one thing 553 00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:43,919 um i should have done it in person 554 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,200 anyway on saturday night i got together 555 00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:49,600 with some old friends from high school 556 00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:52,960 and i want to thank michelle 557 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,640 lump in my throat people just deal with 558 00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:56,000 it i want to thank michelle 559 00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:59,200 stokes uh for putting it together i 560 00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:01,039 texted her last week i gave her one 561 00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:03,360 thing i'm coming to town 562 00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:06,240 go right and she uh she handled 563 00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:07,279 everything just 564 00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,640 with that and i'll tell you guys about 565 00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:12,240 everything on a thursday night and i'll 566 00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:13,600 post some pictures it was really cool 567 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:14,799 but anyway 568 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,880 michelle comes running in the room on 569 00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,640 saturday night and she's yelling 570 00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:20,640 uh we were downstairs in their family 571 00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:21,919 room thing she's like jimmy come here 572 00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:23,679 come here come here i was like what 573 00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,279 i get up she takes me upstairs outside 574 00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,600 in front of the house where julie 575 00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:31,360 pfeiffer another friend of mine of 40 576 00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:33,440 years is standing in the street 577 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:36,799 with her iphone pointed at at the stars 578 00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:40,480 and i was like oh right what's going on 579 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,559 so i walk down turn around and look up 580 00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:44,400 to where she has her phone pointed and 581 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:46,159 there was 582 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:50,080 elon starlink holy crap 583 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:51,760 they didn't know it was startling they 584 00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:53,440 just thought it was ufos 585 00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:56,480 but i look up there it is i finally 586 00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:59,520 got to see starlink 587 00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:01,760 there's a first time for everything and 588 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:04,640 and the first time you see starlink 589 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:09,279 friggin mind-blowing that is crazy town 590 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,520 i just stood there staring up at the 591 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:13,360 line of lights moving across the sky 592 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:16,640 and and i didn't get the full 60 by the 593 00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:17,440 way 594 00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:20,159 uh i did see about seven or eight 595 00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,600 happened so fast 596 00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:22,960 but they were just strutting their stuff 597 00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:25,120 man going across the sky and then they 598 00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:28,480 they just went away um i thought that 599 00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:30,159 they would hang up there for a while but 600 00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:31,919 they didn't the whole thing lasted for 601 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,679 just a few minutes man but it was 602 00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:35,279 breathtaking 603 00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:38,640 really really cool to see and um 604 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:41,679 later uh we got a text from 605 00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:44,080 people around indianapolis uh taking 606 00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:46,080 pictures of what they saw 607 00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:48,640 and some got the full 60 satellites 50 608 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,279 60 satellites all in the world 609 00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,600 you know but we i i don't know what the 610 00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:55,440 difference was our angle maybe 611 00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:58,159 i don't know but but uh i'm gonna say 612 00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:59,760 eight maybe ten 613 00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,840 uh scooting across this guy it was it 614 00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:03,840 was insanity 615 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:07,520 now um uh 616 00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:10,480 one other thing let me get this in 617 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:12,240 julie's husband 618 00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:15,520 bruce um he's in that picture that i 619 00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,000 posted the 35-year pick 620 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:21,360 um that i posted and he's to my right in 621 00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:22,320 those images 622 00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:24,320 and he told us about his that night uh 623 00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:26,000 this past saturday he told us about his 624 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:28,000 ufo sighting when he was seven years old 625 00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:29,600 we're outside you know starlink and 626 00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:30,399 everything 627 00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:33,760 and i've known bruce for 40 years and uh 628 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,240 some of you may remember 629 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:38,320 when uh bruce called into the show one 630 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:41,360 night and shared his experience with us 631 00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:44,399 right well today michelle 632 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:48,559 texted me and said what episode was that 633 00:28:52,990 --> 00:28:50,240 we want to check it out and i left i 634 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:53,000 told her i said that's 500 shows ago 635 00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:57,440 750 shows ago i have no idea michelle 636 00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,640 but uh i told her the fader knots know 637 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:02,080 these things 638 00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,440 so if you remember what episode that was 639 00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:07,279 that bruce pfeiffer called in from 640 00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:09,440 indianapolis to tell us about his ufo 641 00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:10,399 sighting 642 00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:13,600 right off of i-70 and post road 643 00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:16,559 um when he was seven years old uh posted 644 00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:17,279 up in twitter 645 00:29:22,750 --> 00:29:20,640 the episode number hit me with an email 646 00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:22,760 uh so i can let everybody back in 647 00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:23,919 indianapolis 648 00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:27,039 uh know about it okay now uh i'm gonna 649 00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:28,720 get i'm gonna get out of here danny 650 00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:29,200 sheen 651 00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:32,559 is with us tonight and uh tomorrow night 652 00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:34,000 who do we have on with us tomorrow night 653 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:34,480 oh 654 00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:36,960 live from roswell don schmidt and then 655 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,000 wednesday night 656 00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:40,559 sean stone thursday night of course this 657 00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:42,080 week i promise 658 00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,039 we will have a fader night i am your 659 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:47,600 host jimmy church this is fade to black 660 00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:50,399 and the game changer network and kg r a 661 00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:52,880 the planets you can follow me on twitter 662 00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:57,520 at jchurchradio all right 663 00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,799 all right is that is that simple enough 664 00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,279 all right john if you can hear me right 665 00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:05,120 now 666 00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,799 you're the best man i love you thank you 667 00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:08,480 for everything you're always there for 668 00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:09,279 me 669 00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,600 all right all right i'll be right back 670 00:30:23,870 --> 00:30:13,200 with tonight's guest danny sheen stay 671 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:34,830 [Music] 672 00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:36,950 so 673 00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,120 this is nicole church daughter of you 674 00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,279 know who and you're listening to fade to 675 00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:43,679 black on jimmychurchradio.com and the 676 00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:49,990 you're listening to jimmy church fade to 677 00:30:57,290 --> 00:30:56,310 fate to black will now pause for alien 678 00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:57,300 identification 679 00:31:05,350 --> 00:30:58,640 [Music] 680 00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,360 the station ktra radio 681 00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:07,600 this is jimmy church and i'll be at the 682 00:31:11,909 --> 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danny 807 00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:25,680 sheehan tomorrow night don schmidt 808 00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,920 wednesday night sean stone thursday 809 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:29,119 night fader night 810 00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,640 i love my job i do i love my job tonight 811 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,079 danny sheehan 812 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:36,800 and we are in the middle of uh some of 813 00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:39,200 the greatest and craziest times 814 00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:42,240 in uh ufology the subject of of ufos and 815 00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:43,040 e.t 816 00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,280 and tonight danny joins us to discuss 817 00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:47,200 all of the drama right now that is 818 00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:50,320 is going down around us and what's going 819 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:51,599 on with the dod in 820 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,960 uaps right who's representing who 821 00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:57,200 what's going on who is speaking for the 822 00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:58,480 department of defense 823 00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:01,680 how are they looking at us how is danny 824 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:03,359 approaching all of this 825 00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:07,440 well i consider danny to be as close 826 00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,800 as any what we could call an insider 827 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,720 and what an insider could be right now 828 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:15,440 with all of this unfolding breaking news 829 00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:16,480 and the rumors 830 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:18,240 and what is really going on right now in 831 00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:19,680 the world of ufology 832 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:23,119 of course jd attorney graduate of 833 00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,720 harvard law school 834 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:26,400 former director of the christic 835 00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:28,560 institute and is a professor of world 836 00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:31,040 politics at the university of california 837 00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:33,839 and i could i could take the next 838 00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:34,880 segment 839 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:37,520 and read everything that dan has 840 00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:38,240 accomplished 841 00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:42,320 in his life i have teased him many times 842 00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,800 that he did more before the age of 25 843 00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:46,079 than i will do 844 00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:48,400 in my entire life and i want to welcome 845 00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,920 back to fade to block the one and only 846 00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:51,680 danny sheen danny good evening my man 847 00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:52,880 how you doing 848 00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,960 i'm terrific great jimmy it's great to 849 00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:56,000 be here you know 850 00:38:02,710 --> 00:37:59,280 um uh over the years um i 851 00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:02,720 i'm gonna start off with this uh danny 852 00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:04,880 we have had nothing but the best and 853 00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:06,800 open conversations both on 854 00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:10,079 and off the air and uh 855 00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:13,040 and i have always how do i say this i've 856 00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:13,839 looked to you 857 00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,880 for advi i have called you on the phone 858 00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:18,880 and needed legal advice it had nothing 859 00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:20,880 to do with ufos have i not 860 00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:23,680 that's that's right that's right that's 861 00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:24,880 that's the way that i 862 00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:28,320 uh uh look at you and respect you um 863 00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:32,000 but did you ever uh looking back and 864 00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:32,960 going back to 865 00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:36,079 you know 69 70 71 72 866 00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:39,119 that we would be at this point in 867 00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:42,400 in the world of et and ufos and contact 868 00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:44,800 like we are right now with the politics 869 00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,880 in washington and the community and 870 00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:48,160 sightings and 871 00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:51,520 did you ever see this day coming well 872 00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:54,880 i i knew that uh i knew that in my 873 00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:55,760 lifetime 874 00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:58,240 we were going to be coming to this point 875 00:39:02,150 --> 00:38:59,119 where 876 00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:02,160 uh more likely than not the 877 00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:05,599 the intelligence that is behind 878 00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:09,599 uh the actual uh extraterrestrial 879 00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:13,520 ufos or almost certainly going to 880 00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:16,960 be engaging in uh the type of activities 881 00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:18,400 that they've been engaged in over many 882 00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:19,119 decades 883 00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:22,640 and with the onset of better cameras 884 00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:25,680 uh the cell phones the new cameras that 885 00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:26,880 are in cell phones and 886 00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:29,839 everybody having a cell phone uh that 887 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:30,480 the 888 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,240 ufo 889 00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:36,720 vehicles was going to become vastly more 890 00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:37,839 prominent 891 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:41,359 now what what i didn't know uh is that 892 00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:44,560 the the ufo uh phenomena was going to 893 00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:46,240 start manifesting itself 894 00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:48,960 in such dramatic forms a boast uh both 895 00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:51,200 on our east coast off virginia 896 00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:54,240 and off our west coast off baja south of 897 00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:57,599 san diego there we have 898 00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,720 multiple appearances of unidentified 899 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:01,920 flying objects 900 00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:05,359 uh daily and we 901 00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:08,560 we find them now appearing 902 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,839 more and more often in the area where 903 00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:13,200 there are us 904 00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:16,319 military uh aircraft 905 00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,599 uh seacraft etc 906 00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,680 where they they are aware of the fact 907 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,880 that they're going to be picked up on 908 00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:24,480 radar they're going to be 909 00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:27,440 videoed they're going to be uh be seen 910 00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:27,920 by 911 00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:31,599 uh official u.s government uh people 912 00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:33,520 and that's what they've been doing uh 913 00:40:36,030 --> 00:40:35,440 quite clearly but but there's been since 914 00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:36,040 you know 915 00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:39,200 2004 uh this has been going on for some 916 00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:40,400 time now 917 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,839 the the position that the united states 918 00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:45,760 defense department has taken with regard 919 00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:46,480 to them 920 00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:48,560 is different now it's categorically 921 00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:49,839 different and i 922 00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:53,680 i do believe that it was uh stimulated 923 00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,560 by the release of the three videos that 924 00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:58,240 we all know what we're talking about 925 00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:00,079 right they're the videos that were were 926 00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:01,920 reported first in the 927 00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:04,079 uh the online version of the new york 928 00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:07,440 times on december 16th of 2017 929 00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,440 and then on the front page of the new 930 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,280 york times on december 17th 931 00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:14,400 okay let me jump in uh this 932 00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:17,680 is where um i want to 933 00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,640 ask you because of the new york times 934 00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:22,560 being involved in this 935 00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:25,839 um you as an attorney 936 00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,040 have represented and 937 00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:32,240 and represent i should say too as well 938 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:35,440 many different clients over the years 939 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:39,440 can you speak as an attorney 940 00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,440 on the behalf of these different 941 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:43,440 individuals that i'm going to 942 00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:44,800 bring up through the show tonight and 943 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,560 one of them may be like the new york 944 00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:48,800 times for example we have the department 945 00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:51,119 of defense we have lou elizondo 946 00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,800 um and and other groups is it okay 947 00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:56,640 as we proceed for you to speak on their 948 00:42:02,069 --> 00:41:58,720 behalf as their attorney 949 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:02,079 not on their behalf i mean i can i can 950 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:03,440 speak for example when 951 00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:06,240 when i was at the uh at the cahill 952 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:06,720 gordon 953 00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:10,240 law firm in new york city uh i 954 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,280 represented the new york times in in my 955 00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:14,720 official capacity 956 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,560 as one of the legal counsel in the 957 00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:18,880 litigation that was brought 958 00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,359 by the nixon administration to try to 959 00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:23,280 get a federal court injunction to stop 960 00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:24,560 the new york times 961 00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:27,119 from publishing the uh pentagon papers 962 00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:28,319 the 47 volumes 963 00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:31,359 that's right but when i was uh 964 00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,960 in the meetings i was the one who 965 00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:34,400 received the call 966 00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:36,560 from jim goodell who was chief counsel 967 00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:38,000 for the new york times 968 00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:41,359 when they got the pentagon papers i had 969 00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:43,040 come to know 970 00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:45,520 jim because i was writing the amicus 971 00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:48,079 briefs on behalf of the new york times 972 00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:49,920 in the case to establish the right of 973 00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:51,040 journalists to protect their 974 00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:52,720 confidential news sources 975 00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:56,720 because i had been retained by nbc 976 00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,000 to represent the nbc uh 977 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,640 journalist in that case now the fact is 978 00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,200 i was representing the nbc journalist 979 00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,359 before the cahill firm was representing 980 00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,910 and my point being that you understand 981 00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,839 the inner workings and the politics and 982 00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:15,040 the legal stuff 983 00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:18,960 uh and editorial legal decisions that 984 00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:22,800 fall uh with the new york times 985 00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:26,160 so that was yes yeah and and and now 986 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:29,359 uh um did you 987 00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:32,400 or do you still represent 988 00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:36,000 uh the the disclosure project 989 00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:39,200 uh that uh for dr greer i know that you 990 00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:40,560 did 991 00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:43,599 many years ago do you still represent 992 00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:47,280 yeah yes i do okay i represent 993 00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:50,560 the disclosure project i represent uh 994 00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:54,319 lou elizondo uh i represent the 995 00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,599 romero institute i represent uh a number 996 00:44:02,630 --> 00:43:59,119 of the different people that 997 00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,640 the cases are still alive still right 998 00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:04,160 now the disclosure project is still 999 00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:05,920 ongoing uh as 1000 00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:09,040 as is the the citizens hearings uh 1001 00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:12,000 that were in 2013. they're still active 1002 00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:12,800 and so i 1003 00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:16,400 i represent them as well okay so 1004 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:20,079 the um uh 1005 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,280 speaking of luella zondo i remember uh 1006 00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:25,280 you and i having conversations on the 1007 00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:26,720 show and privately 1008 00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:30,800 um and that you have said other stuff um 1009 00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:33,839 uh about ttsa oh yes 1010 00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,960 which were well i was in agreement with 1011 00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,240 by the way but anyway 1012 00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:40,319 yeah you helped us represented before 1013 00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:41,680 right right well that's right 1014 00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:45,359 yeah exactly so being critical 1015 00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:49,119 of ttsa and what may or may not be going 1016 00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:50,000 on there everybody 1017 00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:52,000 can have an opinion and you had yours 1018 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:53,119 you didn't represent 1019 00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:57,839 tdsa but you were very critical of ttsa 1020 00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:01,599 but now you represent lou elizondo 1021 00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,040 who was uh then part of ttsa who has 1022 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:07,680 since left when did you start 1023 00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,440 representing lou was it when he was 1024 00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:10,720 still at ttsa 1025 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:13,839 or after he left before before he left 1026 00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:14,240 okay 1027 00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:17,440 uh the the uh t that 1028 00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:21,119 what happened is that lou resigned 1029 00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:24,079 from the defense department uh and 1030 00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:24,800 became 1031 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,040 a an employee of the to the stars 1032 00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:28,800 academy within a matter of 1033 00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,000 two weeks or so uh and the 1034 00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:34,319 a number of public statements were being 1035 00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:36,079 made by the people from the to the stars 1036 00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:37,760 academy and 1037 00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:40,800 i believed uh i formed 1038 00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:43,760 the opinion that the the to the stars 1039 00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:47,119 academy as an organization 1040 00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,119 was engaged in a a process 1041 00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:53,280 pursuant to which they were attempting 1042 00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:54,880 to generate 1043 00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,640 the image of the ufo phenomenon 1044 00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,480 as being a threat to the national 1045 00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:02,160 security of the united states 1046 00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:05,040 and that they were saying things that uh 1047 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:05,680 were 1048 00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:09,520 department 1049 00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,079 was basically being negligent 1050 00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:17,200 in that the ufo phenomenon was intruding 1051 00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:18,960 upon our airspace 1052 00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:22,079 they were were hovering near nuclear 1053 00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:23,119 facilities 1054 00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,839 they were uh they were hovering near 1055 00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:28,880 nuclear missile facilities and nuclear 1056 00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:31,520 aircraft carriers and that they were 1057 00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,160 they were 1058 00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,560 very clearly uh indicated some of the 1059 00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:36,160 people that were there were very clearly 1060 00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:37,040 indicating 1061 00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,160 that they viewed the ufo phenomenon 1062 00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:42,400 as technically a threat to the national 1063 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:44,000 security of the united states 1064 00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:47,280 uh that i i reviewed the backgrounds of 1065 00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:48,560 all of those people 1066 00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:51,599 uh i had not met any of them 1067 00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,480 but i said look at based upon my 50 1068 00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:56,000 years of experience 1069 00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:57,599 in dealing with people from the national 1070 00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:59,040 security state 1071 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,640 from the central intelligence agency 1072 00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:02,880 from nsa and others and i'd had 1073 00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:05,040 you know direct contact with people from 1074 00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:06,480 all of those agencies 1075 00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:09,599 that it was it was my opinion 1076 00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:12,960 that they were functioning as a 1077 00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:15,280 an agent of the defense intelligence 1078 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,079 agency 1079 00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:18,720 that they were engaged in a process of 1080 00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:19,680 attempting to 1081 00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,880 flog the narrative that the ufo 1082 00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:24,079 phenomena were 1083 00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:25,599 a threat to the national security of the 1084 00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,480 united states now i hasten to point out 1085 00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:31,440 that uh from the perspective of someone 1086 00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:31,920 who was 1087 00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:33,839 inside the national security state 1088 00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:35,040 bureaucracy 1089 00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:38,079 of our of our nation state that was 1090 00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:39,680 exactly how they perceive almost 1091 00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,400 everything 1092 00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:42,559 that they actually follow a protocol of 1093 00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:43,599 believing that 1094 00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:46,240 anything that they see that cannot be 1095 00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:47,680 eliminated 1096 00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:50,960 as a threat to our national security 1097 00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:53,599 they perceive to be a threat to our 1098 00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:54,720 national security 1099 00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:56,319 right and i pointed out that i thought 1100 00:48:01,589 --> 00:47:58,160 that that was a a very 1101 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:01,599 unfortunate perspective for people 1102 00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,480 uh to have uh in light of the importance 1103 00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:06,559 of our relationship with people from an 1104 00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:08,400 extraterrestrial civilization 1105 00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:11,760 i thought that that that antagonistic 1106 00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:14,880 dialectical confrontational uh 1107 00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:18,000 adversarial perspective toward them was 1108 00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:18,480 uh 1109 00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:21,280 was dysfunctional and i thought that we 1110 00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,480 should not allow 1111 00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,079 the national security state of 1112 00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:26,240 bureaucracy to determine 1113 00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:28,319 uh the perspective that our american 1114 00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:29,520 citizens had 1115 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:32,640 uh on this issue uh and so that i 1116 00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,520 thought that 1117 00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:36,000 prior to that time the united states 1118 00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:36,960 defense department 1119 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:39,680 as you you're well aware have been 1120 00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:41,520 taking the bizarre position that 1121 00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:43,520 these weren't even real that these 1122 00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,800 weren't true that 1123 00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,040 virtually every one of these instances 1124 00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:49,520 was either swamp gas or 1125 00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,359 lights reflected from the lighthouse off 1126 00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,200 clouds and they came up with these 1127 00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:55,520 absurd explanations for these things 1128 00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,400 or that people were crazy they imagined 1129 00:49:01,349 --> 00:49:00,400 it they made it up or it was a hoax that 1130 00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:01,359 was another 1131 00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:04,960 piece that's right and and uh and uh 1132 00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:07,680 richard dolan had done extraordinarily 1133 00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:08,960 great work when he was doing the 1134 00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,040 research for his phd in history 1135 00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:14,079 at upenn uh where he was digging in and 1136 00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:15,680 filing freedom of information 1137 00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:18,960 uh uh demands and she got access to 1138 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,839 previously classified internal documents 1139 00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:23,760 from the cia and the defense department 1140 00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:24,640 in which they 1141 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:28,000 explicitly talked about having a 1142 00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:28,800 protocol 1143 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:32,800 of of discrediting people who saw ufos 1144 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,720 or reported ufos 1145 00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:36,720 even under the point of in consciously 1146 00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:38,960 destroying their their careers 1147 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,880 in order to try to discredit them and 1148 00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:42,880 that they had this conscious program of 1149 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:44,720 doing that uh 1150 00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:47,520 and so that prior to prior to the 1151 00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:49,839 beginning of the to the stars academy 1152 00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,760 the defense department had this almost 1153 00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:53,280 uniform position 1154 00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:56,079 uh of asserting to the public that these 1155 00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:57,040 were not real 1156 00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:59,599 and that anybody who reported them was 1157 00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:00,720 mentally ill 1158 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,000 uh they had some sort of psychosis uh or 1159 00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:07,200 was just uh just in error and uh and so 1160 00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:07,760 that it was 1161 00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:10,079 it was clear that the the beginning of 1162 00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,599 the to the stars academy 1163 00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,920 was a different type of position that 1164 00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:15,760 was being taken 1165 00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:18,640 was this something as lou's attorney 1166 00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:19,359 that you 1167 00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,240 expressed to him too as well the urgency 1168 00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:23,920 in this kind of matter 1169 00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:27,200 well when when what happened is that 1170 00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:30,559 i had i had been interviewed any number 1171 00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:31,440 of times 1172 00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,760 about what my opinion was about the to 1173 00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:35,200 the stars academy and what they were 1174 00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:35,920 doing 1175 00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:37,920 and i said just exactly what i'm saying 1176 00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:39,200 here is that 1177 00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:41,760 is that i viewed that as being a new 1178 00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:42,640 phase 1179 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:45,119 uh of the intelligence community coming 1180 00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,720 forward instead of denying their 1181 00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:47,839 existence 1182 00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:51,520 acknowledging that they were real 1183 00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:53,280 but asserting that they were a threat to 1184 00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,640 the national security 1185 00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:56,880 and that i thought that was a an 1186 00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,000 unfortunate 1187 00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,960 uh change in position uh that i thought 1188 00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:02,559 it was a bad position to be lying and 1189 00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,079 denying them to begin with 1190 00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,559 i thought it was also a bad idea to be 1191 00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:08,000 trying to represent them as a threat to 1192 00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:09,280 national security but 1193 00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,599 as i said i hasten to point out that 1194 00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:13,200 from their perspective 1195 00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:15,680 inside the national security uh 1196 00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:16,800 bureaucracy 1197 00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,800 they they were clearly going to perceive 1198 00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:20,559 these as a threat to national security i 1199 00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:21,599 mean you know when 1200 00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:24,000 when you have a ufo for example up at 1201 00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:24,880 monstrum 1202 00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:27,920 uh uh milestone up in in uh 1203 00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:30,640 montana yeah you know they come across 1204 00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,040 if you come over the security fences 1205 00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:35,680 at a minuteman nuclear missile site and 1206 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:36,800 they shut off 1207 00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:39,440 you know all dozen of the uh the 1208 00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:40,960 independently wired 1209 00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:44,000 minutemen uh and make them uh no goes i 1210 00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:44,880 mean they're they're 1211 00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,599 dysfunctional at that point from the 1212 00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:48,960 narrow perspective of the national 1213 00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:50,160 security state 1214 00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:51,520 they view this as a threat to the 1215 00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,359 national security of the united states 1216 00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:55,119 even though i mean if you drop back just 1217 00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:56,480 a step and say wait a second 1218 00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:00,079 here are nuclear warhead missiles uh 1219 00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:02,319 primed and ready to be fueled to be 1220 00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:04,079 launched within minutes 1221 00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:07,280 uh to wipe out tens of thousands 1222 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,319 of non-combatant civilians which is is 1223 00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:12,640 completely contrary to the the 1224 00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:16,000 just war theory uh and and i 1225 00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,680 at jesuit headquarters when i was chief 1226 00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:18,960 counsel for the jesuit national 1227 00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:19,839 headquarters 1228 00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,760 national office of social ministry we 1229 00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,760 had actually taken a position 1230 00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:25,680 uh which we got the us catholic congress 1231 00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,880 of bishops to take 1232 00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,800 and the board of homeland ministries the 1233 00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:30,319 united methodist church that it was a 1234 00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:32,160 mortal sin 1235 00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:35,920 weapons 1236 00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,839 for the purpose of destroying 1237 00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,359 non-combatant civilians 1238 00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,760 it was absolutely clear that it was and 1239 00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:43,359 so the united states having these 1240 00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:44,960 missiles poised 1241 00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:46,960 ready to go to destroy other human 1242 00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:49,520 beings like this for someone to come 1243 00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,359 and demonstrate that they could shut 1244 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,680 those off it's not a threat 1245 00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:55,599 it's it's not it's not a threat to the 1246 00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,520 national security of the united states 1247 00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,200 but it's a threat to the national 1248 00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:01,359 security state bureaucracy 1249 00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:04,240 so are you suggesting are you suggesting 1250 00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:05,040 uh 1251 00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:09,839 and many have that ttsa was then 1252 00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,960 a vehicle for these agencies in the 1253 00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:14,559 department of defense 1254 00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:17,520 to project this message the threat 1255 00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,319 message 1256 00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,960 yeah i i said that it was it was clear 1257 00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:22,480 it was clear that there was this 1258 00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:23,599 peculiar 1259 00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:26,000 uh ambiguity about their message to 1260 00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:26,720 start with 1261 00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:29,200 they would say for example that clearly 1262 00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,240 these items 1263 00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:33,200 uh are coming into our near our our 1264 00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,160 warships 1265 00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,880 and near our our fighter planes and near 1266 00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:38,640 our nuclear weapons sites 1267 00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:42,160 uh and entering our quote airspace uh 1268 00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,359 without authority 1269 00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:45,200 was perceived by them to be a threat to 1270 00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:46,640 the national security of the united 1271 00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:47,680 states 1272 00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:50,960 and that the but the defense department 1273 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,599 was not taking that position they were 1274 00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:54,960 taking the position that they didn't 1275 00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:56,000 exist 1276 00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,920 they were taking the position that that 1277 00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:59,440 there was no such threat 1278 00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:01,599 uh and the fact of the matter is the 1279 00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,280 entire infrastructure 1280 00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:06,079 of the military in the united states was 1281 00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:06,400 not 1282 00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:08,800 conducting itself as though they thought 1283 00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:10,079 this was a threat 1284 00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:11,440 to the to the national security of the 1285 00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,160 united states so there was this bizarre 1286 00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:16,640 ambiguity about the defense department's 1287 00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,440 position 1288 00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:19,359 but when the to the stars academy came 1289 00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:21,200 out and started asserting 1290 00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,599 a that these are real that these are 1291 00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:24,800 real vehicles 1292 00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:27,200 and then they would say things like uh 1293 00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:28,000 okay and 1294 00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:29,839 we're we're confident they they're not 1295 00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:31,119 from russia 1296 00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:32,720 uh and we're confident they're not from 1297 00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:35,040 china uh and we're confident they're not 1298 00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:36,000 ours 1299 00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:37,359 and then so people would say to them 1300 00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:39,200 well what are you saying what do you say 1301 00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:40,400 and they're saying oh no no we're not 1302 00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:41,680 saying anything else 1303 00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:43,200 but they would say things cryptically 1304 00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:45,760 like but it raises the question 1305 00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:47,920 are we alone you know and they would 1306 00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,880 they would quote 1307 00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:51,040 the classic out of the x-files like 1308 00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:52,079 we're not alone 1309 00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:55,040 you know in in the all the implications 1310 00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:55,520 were 1311 00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:58,799 extraterrestrial presence 1312 00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:00,400 uh and they kept doing this over and 1313 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,839 over and over again 1314 00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:03,760 and yet when they were confronted on it 1315 00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:05,599 and say are you saying that you believe 1316 00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:06,240 these are 1317 00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:08,319 extraterrestrial vehicles and they would 1318 00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:09,359 say well 1319 00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:11,680 it's very hard to offer any other 1320 00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:13,040 explanation for it 1321 00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,640 but they wouldn't say yeah that's what 1322 00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:16,240 we're saying so i 1323 00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:19,200 i was i was critical of that particular 1324 00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:20,000 tactic 1325 00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,359 uh i thought that this was not a a good 1326 00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,920 way to start uh telling the american 1327 00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,760 people that ufos were real 1328 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:30,240 or that there were extraterrestrial 1329 00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:31,920 civilizations 1330 00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:35,760 but uh i i i was expecting 1331 00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:38,480 to sooner or later have someone from the 1332 00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,760 to the stars academy 1333 00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:42,480 uh contact me uh and talk with me and 1334 00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:43,760 that happened 1335 00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:46,880 yeah well it did happen lou called you 1336 00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:51,040 and would um uh can you comment on 1337 00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:54,079 was this part of lou's 1338 00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,760 mindset as well uh i'm sure there was a 1339 00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,000 lot of reasons why he chose to leave 1340 00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:02,480 to the stars when he did but was this 1341 00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:03,200 part of it 1342 00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:06,079 that the message was not something that 1343 00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:07,040 uh he was 1344 00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:10,079 he was comf comfortable with well he was 1345 00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:10,640 uh 1346 00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:13,760 he was he's he said to me to begin with 1347 00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:16,799 uh our initial conversations were look 1348 00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,359 the people inside the defense department 1349 00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,119 are lying about me 1350 00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:23,760 they're lying about me being the head of 1351 00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,400 atip 1352 00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:26,480 right the uh advanced aerospace threat 1353 00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:28,400 identification they're lying about its 1354 00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:30,079 even existence they're denying that it 1355 00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:31,119 never existed 1356 00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:33,040 you know he said this is outrageous you 1357 00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:34,319 know they're lying to the american 1358 00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:36,079 people they're lying about me 1359 00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:38,240 they're basically publicly calling me a 1360 00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,119 liar right 1361 00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,760 uh and and i i want to do something 1362 00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:43,280 about that to stop the defense 1363 00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,000 department from 1364 00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:46,559 saying things like that now what do we 1365 00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:47,119 do 1366 00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:50,480 um uh this is this is a strange we've 1367 00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:52,240 got three minutes we can pick up after 1368 00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:53,839 the break though danny 1369 00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:56,319 um this puts us in a strange position 1370 00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:57,119 where there 1371 00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:00,160 is a big chunk of 1372 00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:03,680 new ufo fans right that have 1373 00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:06,720 you know that um are 1374 00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:09,599 happy that the department of the defense 1375 00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:10,400 and the navy 1376 00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:13,119 are suddenly our friends of the ufo 1377 00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:13,680 community 1378 00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:17,920 right and but yet we're having these 1379 00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,280 uh statements that are contradictory 1380 00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:24,000 right you know so are they telling the 1381 00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:24,720 truth about 1382 00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:30,880 us navy videos 1383 00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:33,119 or is that a bunch of disinformation in 1384 00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,319 bs2 1385 00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:36,400 we've got decisions to make about the 1386 00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,240 messages coming out of 1387 00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,799 the pentagon that's right that's right 1388 00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:42,400 we we have we have questions about the 1389 00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:44,160 messages coming out of the pentagon 1390 00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:46,079 and we have questions about what the 1391 00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:47,280 messages are coming 1392 00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:50,400 out of the to the stars academy uh 1393 00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:53,040 and uh but when when lou contacted me 1394 00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:53,760 originally 1395 00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:55,760 what he was saying look these some 1396 00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,760 people inside the pentagon 1397 00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:59,839 are issuing official statements on 1398 00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:01,440 behalf of the pentagon 1399 00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:04,799 lying saying there was no no advanced 1400 00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,520 aerospace 1401 00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:07,680 threat identification project uh it's a 1402 00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:09,440 lie uh there was uh 1403 00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,040 lou elizondo never had anything to do 1404 00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:12,960 with any such program and they started 1405 00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:15,359 disparaging his military career 1406 00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:18,000 uh and he was upset uh and he said look 1407 00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:18,559 uh 1408 00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:22,160 i i know that you've represented the new 1409 00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:22,960 york times 1410 00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,400 in the pentagon papers case i knew you 1411 00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,079 represented the silkwood family 1412 00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:27,920 he said i knew that you represented dr 1413 00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:30,000 john mack at his confrontation at 1414 00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,720 harvard 1415 00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,160 i i know that you're the one that went 1416 00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,240 after the off-the-shelf enterprise 1417 00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:36,480 of lieutenant colonel north and richard 1418 00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,760 c cord and everybody 1419 00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:39,760 he said you're the kind of guy that i 1420 00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:41,920 think uh i would like to have 1421 00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:44,960 uh working with me to get the defense 1422 00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:46,960 department to tell the truth 1423 00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:50,079 and so i said to him i said well how 1424 00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:51,599 much of the truth do you want them to 1425 00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:52,000 tell 1426 00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:54,079 i know you're my fir you're my first 1427 00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:55,839 phone call danny 1428 00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:58,480 you're my first phone call but that this 1429 00:59:05,670 --> 00:58:58,960 is a 1430 00:59:06,870 --> 00:59:05,680 honest question you want uh to have to 1431 00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:06,880 ask luke 1432 00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:08,640 yeah how far do you want to take this 1433 00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:11,440 man i can take it as far as you want 1434 00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:14,240 are you ready because it is go time 1435 00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:15,200 let's take uh 1436 00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,640 let's take our break right here danny 1437 00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:18,400 let's get this in this is fade to black 1438 00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:20,079 our guest tonight danny sheehan 1439 00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:22,559 we've got a lot to discuss tonight this 1440 00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:24,079 is fade to black i'm your host jimmy 1441 00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:24,559 church 1442 00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,079 radio we've got danny's 1443 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01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:08,079 hello this is serena wright taylor from 1552 01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:09,520 conscious life expo 1553 01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:11,440 and you're listening to fade to black 1554 01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:12,559 with jimmy church 1555 01:04:16,910 --> 01:04:14,799 who holds the lucky pony record for the 1556 01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:16,920 best astrological chart since 1557 01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:20,559 1963. true story 1558 01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:22,240 this is micah hanks of the ghrelian 1559 01:04:25,349 --> 01:04:23,839 report and you're listening to jimmy 1560 01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:25,359 church on fade to black 1561 01:04:29,029 --> 01:04:27,119 across the globe on the game changer 1562 01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:29,039 radio network and the one and only 1563 01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:53,270 welcome back fade to black i'm your host 1564 01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:55,280 jimmy church tonight daniel sheen is 1565 01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:57,440 with us i call him danny 1566 01:05:00,870 --> 01:04:59,520 i call him danny that's because when he 1567 01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:00,880 picks up the phone 1568 01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:03,440 he literally says this is danny 1569 01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:05,520 [Laughter] 1570 01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:09,520 daniel sheehan now uh this conversation 1571 01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:12,160 uh i'm really enjoying uh danny for a 1572 01:05:17,029 --> 01:05:13,680 couple of reasons and one of them 1573 01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:17,039 oh i lost danny hold on 1574 01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:22,000 hold on hold on danny are you there oh i 1575 01:05:27,430 --> 01:05:23,280 can't believe it 1576 01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:30,630 to let me do this 1577 01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:34,400 and let me do this okay hold on 1578 01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:40,470 hey danny you know we're live on the air 1579 01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:42,480 right yeah 1580 01:05:45,990 --> 01:05:45,359 yeah just stay right there pick it up 1581 01:05:53,109 --> 01:05:46,000 okay 1582 01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:53,119 if i have to we'll switch to phones 1583 01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:03,190 um yeah this is see 1584 01:06:08,549 --> 01:06:06,400 right now this this is what goes down 1585 01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:08,559 when you're talking about okay i think 1586 01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:10,480 we got it back we got we got danny back 1587 01:06:13,349 --> 01:06:11,760 we got 1588 01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:13,359 see this is what happens man you start 1589 01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:15,280 talking about the dod and the agencies 1590 01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:16,640 just felt 1591 01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:18,480 this is what happens yeah this is what 1592 01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:19,839 happens okay 1593 01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:30,710 approaching uh the department of defense 1594 01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:34,000 and their statements about lou 1595 01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:37,520 and atip is this a court proceeding 1596 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:40,960 or or is this something that you can get 1597 01:06:47,109 --> 01:06:44,720 them to come back 1598 01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:47,119 and and correct their statements how do 1599 01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:49,359 you approach that 1600 01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:52,319 well before before filing a federal 1601 01:06:56,390 --> 01:06:52,960 civil 1602 01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:56,400 lawsuit uh in the judicial branch uh 1603 01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:58,480 there if you have a complaint against 1604 01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:00,160 one of the agencies 1605 01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:02,240 of the united states executive branch 1606 01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:03,839 like the defense department 1607 01:07:07,589 --> 01:07:05,680 they the the judicial branch is going to 1608 01:07:10,390 --> 01:07:07,599 require you to quote exhaust 1609 01:07:12,069 --> 01:07:10,400 all of your administrative remedies if 1610 01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:12,079 they have procedures inside the 1611 01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:13,520 administrative agency 1612 01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:15,920 for being able to cure a mistake that 1613 01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:16,799 they've made 1614 01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:20,160 or to remedy some uh improper conduct 1615 01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:22,160 that they're engaging in you have to 1616 01:07:26,789 --> 01:07:24,960 give them a chance to do it themselves 1617 01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:26,799 voluntarily right and so you have to 1618 01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:28,480 initiate a procedure 1619 01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:31,200 uh inside the defense department either 1620 01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:32,640 through the administrative procedures 1621 01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:33,119 act 1622 01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:34,720 or through any other type of statute 1623 01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:36,720 that might give them jurisdiction 1624 01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,240 in this particular case there's an 1625 01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:40,400 inspector general's office 1626 01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:42,480 and if in fact you have a complaint 1627 01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:44,160 against the defense department 1628 01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,920 you can go to the inspector general's 1629 01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:47,280 office and it's sort of like 1630 01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:49,839 a mini attorney general's office only 1631 01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:50,319 it's not 1632 01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:53,200 inside the justice department uh this is 1633 01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:55,520 before you go to the justice department 1634 01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:57,760 against them uh if they've been engaged 1635 01:08:02,390 --> 01:07:59,119 in some sort of criminal 1636 01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:02,400 act uh so that that uh 1637 01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:05,680 what we did is uh lou and i worked 1638 01:08:09,670 --> 01:08:06,319 together 1639 01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:09,680 to draft a complaint to file 1640 01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:12,799 with the inspector general's office uh 1641 01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:16,000 asserting a certain number of things 1642 01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:19,359 and the they've they've taken the 1643 01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:20,400 position that 1644 01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:23,199 uh once we file this official complaint 1645 01:08:26,789 --> 01:08:24,640 and they take it up 1646 01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:26,799 uh that we're not supposed to tell 1647 01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:27,679 anybody 1648 01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:30,080 what it is that was in the complaint uh 1649 01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:31,759 what their positions are what they're 1650 01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:33,279 doing about it etc 1651 01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:35,120 now this is this is a position that's 1652 01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:37,359 often taken by wrongdoers 1653 01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:39,679 uh for example at harvard university 1654 01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:41,359 when harvard university started going 1655 01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:42,880 after dr john mack 1656 01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:44,319 who was the head of their department of 1657 01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:45,839 clinical psychiatry which almost 1658 01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:46,719 everybody 1659 01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:49,440 your listeners know who he is they took 1660 01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:50,640 the position that 1661 01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:52,560 uh we shouldn't talk about it we 1662 01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:54,080 shouldn't talk about the fact that 1663 01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:55,839 harvard university had convened 1664 01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:58,080 this hearing uh and that they were 1665 01:09:02,550 --> 01:08:59,120 excoriating 1666 01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,560 uh john uh for his his ufo 1667 01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:04,560 research we shouldn't say what they're 1668 01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:05,839 saying at all 1669 01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:07,279 the same thing is true when i filed the 1670 01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:08,960 iran contract case against the 1671 01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:10,640 off-the-shelf enterprise 1672 01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:12,880 james lawrence king down in the southern 1673 01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:14,560 district of florida said 1674 01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:16,719 mr shin i want to make it really clear 1675 01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:17,759 now 1676 01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:19,520 you filed this major federal criminal 1677 01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:21,279 racketeering complaint against these 1678 01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:22,239 people 1679 01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:23,759 and you better not say anything about 1680 01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:25,920 this at all if you say anything about it 1681 01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:26,400 at all 1682 01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:29,600 i'm going to summarily dismiss the case 1683 01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:31,679 is that is that the business is that the 1684 01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:32,640 position that 1685 01:09:36,149 --> 01:09:34,799 has been taken right now with uh the 1686 01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,159 department of defense 1687 01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:39,359 you've started the procedure i don't 1688 01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:40,880 want to know what's in the complaint 1689 01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:42,239 because 1690 01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:45,520 say that you 1691 01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:47,839 you disclosed what was in but actually 1692 01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:49,359 but actually you do want to know what's 1693 01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:50,159 in the comments 1694 01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:52,080 of course it's like everybody just like 1695 01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:53,199 everybody would want to know what's in 1696 01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:53,839 the complaint 1697 01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:55,360 and that's why what i said i said to 1698 01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:57,120 them i said look at are you telling 1699 01:10:02,709 --> 01:10:00,159 are you telling uh lou that he's not 1700 01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:02,719 allowed to talk about the complaint that 1701 01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:04,640 he has against the defense department 1702 01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:06,239 he's been he's been going telling 1703 01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:08,159 everybody uh that he's upset at the 1704 01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:09,520 defense department that the defense 1705 01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:10,719 department is lying 1706 01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:12,560 uh that they're falsely asserting that 1707 01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:14,159 there's no uh 1708 01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:16,239 there's no such thing as the advanced uh 1709 01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:18,480 aerospace threat identification project 1710 01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:20,400 uh there's that he never had anything to 1711 01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:21,600 do with it well you know 1712 01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:25,040 lou uh lou did say on this program 1713 01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:27,360 it's part of the public record that 1714 01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:28,239 susan gow 1715 01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:30,400 doesn't know her ass from the hole in 1716 01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:31,280 the ground so 1717 01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:34,880 he he said that publicly so i mean 1718 01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:37,840 obviously his position is clear it's one 1719 01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:39,520 of those stipulated facts 1720 01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,189 one can tell is all one needs to do is 1721 01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:51,679 is distinguish between what it is that 1722 01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:52,560 lou has said 1723 01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:55,600 publicly about his complaint uh 1724 01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,080 before he filed it about his complaining 1725 01:11:02,229 --> 01:11:00,159 about the defense department about his 1726 01:11:04,229 --> 01:11:02,239 complaining about particular personnel 1727 01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:04,239 uh inside the defense department 1728 01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:07,199 and uh and you can probably guess what 1729 01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:08,880 some of the content of his 1730 01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:12,080 formal complaint sure sure yeah and so 1731 01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:14,640 so that and so that they they he's he's 1732 01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:16,080 filed the complaint he and i went 1733 01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:16,960 through this 1734 01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,159 uh in some detail before filing it uh 1735 01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:23,199 and we filed the the complaint that now 1736 01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:25,199 the thing to keep in mind now is there 1737 01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:26,239 are 1738 01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:32,800 the inspector general's department uh or 1739 01:11:36,470 --> 01:11:34,640 his office just like in the justice 1740 01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:36,480 department the the federal justice 1741 01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:38,480 department has a criminal division a 1742 01:11:41,669 --> 01:11:39,520 civil division an 1743 01:11:42,950 --> 01:11:41,679 anti-trust division it has a civil 1744 01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,960 rights division 1745 01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:44,880 you know it has a whole series of these 1746 01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:46,000 different divisions 1747 01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:49,120 uh and a complaint that is made 1748 01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:51,840 and filed with the attorney general uh 1749 01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:53,120 the attorney general has the 1750 01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:54,960 responsibility for saying well look at 1751 01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:57,040 which department or departments are 1752 01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:58,560 going to have jurisdiction 1753 01:12:01,990 --> 01:12:00,800 over this particular complaint you know 1754 01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:02,000 for example if it's a 1755 01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:03,920 if it's a black person who files a 1756 01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:05,920 complaint saying i've been deprived 1757 01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:08,800 of my right to vote in alabama uh then 1758 01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:10,159 the attorney general says oh i know what 1759 01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:11,360 to do with this i'm going to send it to 1760 01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,560 the civil rights division they have a 1761 01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:14,480 whole black voting rights area 1762 01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:15,920 and and so that there's a whole 1763 01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:17,840 bureaucracy that has to sort of 1764 01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:19,920 pass upon this and filter it through 1765 01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,960 that that process 1766 01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:22,800 is going on now in the inspector 1767 01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:25,199 general's office is there a ufo division 1768 01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:26,480 that they would send this to 1769 01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:29,920 oh actually i wish they were right 1770 01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:32,960 now and at the same time 1771 01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:35,600 i knew you and i briefly talked about 1772 01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:37,120 this last week i want to save all of 1773 01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:38,400 this for the show 1774 01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:41,440 we all know that the the ig 1775 01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:44,640 right now has publicly stated 1776 01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:48,239 there is some type of uap 1777 01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:51,440 investigation audit you know i don't 1778 01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:52,880 know exactly 1779 01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:56,320 what uh he is calling it uh his office i 1780 01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:57,360 should say 1781 01:13:01,430 --> 01:13:00,080 but that's that that's going 1782 01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:01,440 investigation 1783 01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:04,000 um wanting to know about the actions 1784 01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:04,560 that 1785 01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:06,880 these different departments have taken 1786 01:13:10,229 --> 01:13:08,480 uh with the uap 1787 01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:10,239 subject that's a very interesting word 1788 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:11,520 by the way actions 1789 01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:14,800 but at the same time are did you file 1790 01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:18,000 with the same office with the ig 1791 01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,120 so are there two yes we filed it 1792 01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:23,120 generally with the inspector general 1793 01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:25,199 in the inspector general's office uh 1794 01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:27,360 they have a thing called their hotline 1795 01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:29,360 uh and they make an original 1796 01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:30,960 determination as to which 1797 01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:34,320 one or more of those departments uh 1798 01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:37,120 might be pertinent and so that there are 1799 01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:37,840 three of them 1800 01:13:44,830 --> 01:13:41,520 to which has been referred uh already uh 1801 01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:44,840 one of them is the uh is the 1802 01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:49,120 uh whistleblower a retaliation 1803 01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:52,080 uh department right the other one is 1804 01:13:57,189 --> 01:13:53,360 space 1805 01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:57,199 missiles and nuclear uh division 1806 01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:00,400 uh and there's another one a a a 1807 01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:04,400 retaliation division and then there is a 1808 01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:04,800 fourth 1809 01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:06,960 investigation going on which is this 1810 01:14:12,470 --> 01:14:08,640 general investigation 1811 01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:12,480 to to determine uh basically 1812 01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:15,280 what what protocols have actually been 1813 01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:16,960 established inside the defense 1814 01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,000 department 1815 01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:21,120 for investigating the ufo phenomenon 1816 01:14:24,310 --> 01:14:23,199 uh what type of protocols have been 1817 01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:24,320 established about 1818 01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:26,400 declaring differing aspects of the 1819 01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:28,960 investigations to be classified 1820 01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:32,320 uh or not classified and so that 1821 01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:35,120 that whole effort that we're engaged in 1822 01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:35,920 right now 1823 01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:39,440 uh lou and i are to fight to find out 1824 01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:41,440 what the lay of the land is in there you 1825 01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:42,640 know why is it 1826 01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:45,199 how is it conceivable that the the 1827 01:14:49,669 --> 01:14:47,440 secretary of defense for example 1828 01:14:51,189 --> 01:14:49,679 would not be briefed in on whatever it 1829 01:14:52,709 --> 01:14:51,199 was they were doing with regard to 1830 01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:52,719 investigating ufos 1831 01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:55,360 how could that be true how could the the 1832 01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,760 uh 1833 01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:57,679 chief of staff of the united states air 1834 01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:00,080 force not be briefed in on 1835 01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:02,080 what it is they're doing about the ufo 1836 01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:03,280 phenomenon 1837 01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:05,360 and dan and danny this is what i find 1838 01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:06,640 interesting so 1839 01:15:10,310 --> 01:15:09,199 the ig's got that investigation going on 1840 01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:10,320 certainly lou's 1841 01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:13,679 name uh is going to be part of their 1842 01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:14,960 investigation no matter 1843 01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:18,320 what road they go down and then 1844 01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:21,120 and you filed a separate complaint for 1845 01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:21,679 lou 1846 01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,640 about these issues and the ig's gonna be 1847 01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:26,400 looking at both of these at the same 1848 01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:27,280 time 1849 01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:29,120 and seeing the correlation where does 1850 01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:31,199 susan gow and the pentagon 1851 01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:33,760 fall in between with saying lou had 1852 01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:35,440 nothing to do with anything 1853 01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:37,199 but these two investigations are going 1854 01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:38,960 to be going on where lou's name is going 1855 01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:41,360 to be all over both of them 1856 01:15:45,189 --> 01:15:43,520 well that's that that's a matter of 1857 01:15:47,830 --> 01:15:45,199 their own bureaucratic 1858 01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:47,840 internal protocols right and the so that 1859 01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:49,280 i'm going to be candid with them you 1860 01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,800 know i meet with the inspector general 1861 01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:52,480 along with lou on the 15th of 1862 01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:55,040 june coming up in washington oh uh and 1863 01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:55,679 we're 1864 01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:58,960 talking with them and saying look at uh 1865 01:16:02,950 --> 01:15:59,840 you know how many 1866 01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:02,960 uh how many different departments uh 1867 01:16:07,030 --> 01:16:04,800 have you filed portions of this 1868 01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:07,040 complaint with you know uh so that we'll 1869 01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:08,800 know how to arrange our schedule how 1870 01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:09,920 many of them we're going to have to meet 1871 01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:10,960 with in person 1872 01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:12,080 you know what are the areas of 1873 01:16:15,430 --> 01:16:13,679 jurisdiction that each of you have 1874 01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:15,440 respectively so that we can 1875 01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:18,159 direct information to you or to that 1876 01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:20,320 department that is pertinent to it 1877 01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:23,520 uh so that you know now as people 1878 01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:24,640 probably guess 1879 01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:25,679 that when you're dealing with the 1880 01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:27,360 defense department it's usually a 1881 01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:28,800 one-way street 1882 01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:31,520 you know they ask you questions you know 1883 01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:32,000 uh 1884 01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:34,960 and when i ask them questions i'm hoping 1885 01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:36,800 that we're going to be able to establish 1886 01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:37,840 a level of 1887 01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:40,719 uh communication with them in which 1888 01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:42,880 they're open and honest with us 1889 01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:45,440 uh about at least facilitating the 1890 01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:47,520 process so that we know 1891 01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:49,280 how many different departments are are 1892 01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:50,640 investigating this 1893 01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:52,400 which portions of the complaint are 1894 01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:54,159 going to be investigated by whom 1895 01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:56,400 uh and that that'll become more clear 1896 01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:58,000 there's there's always this 1897 01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:59,840 period at the beginning of a major 1898 01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:01,120 action like this 1899 01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:03,280 where everybody has to sort of know who 1900 01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,320 the players are 1901 01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:06,400 get clear about what the rules are of 1902 01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:08,000 engagement are going to be 1903 01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:10,080 you know uh who's going to who's going 1904 01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:11,920 to be speaking for them 1905 01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:14,560 uh you know so these are these are all 1906 01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:16,400 there's there's an awful lot of walking 1907 01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:17,440 around each other 1908 01:17:20,950 --> 01:17:19,280 right now going on there's kind of 1909 01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:20,960 scoping each other out and then trying 1910 01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:21,760 to figure out 1911 01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:23,760 you know what the hell is she in doing 1912 01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:24,800 here you know 1913 01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:26,880 how how is it how is it that louis 1914 01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:29,600 lozando has retained danny sheehan 1915 01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:33,360 well you know the disclosure project 1916 01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:36,159 that's right danny let's let's be uh 1917 01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:38,080 let's be very blunt 1918 01:17:56,840 --> 01:19:03,750 two 1919 01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:04,950 about what to tell the committee and 1920 01:19:08,229 --> 01:19:07,040 what not to tell them you know now 1921 01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:08,239 this is the senate intelligence 1922 01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:10,000 committee and the senate armed services 1923 01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:10,560 committee 1924 01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:13,360 uh to whom this report is supposed to go 1925 01:19:21,110 --> 01:19:13,760 uh 1926 01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:21,120 the dean and i the the the head of the 1927 01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:24,159 the national uh intelligence head is 1928 01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:27,199 actually going to be making uh 1929 01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,880 their own decision that office is going 1930 01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:30,800 to make its own decision about what it's 1931 01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:31,520 going to tell 1932 01:19:36,310 --> 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virtual shield vpn today right now 2011 01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:11,840 you can also go to virtualshield.com 2012 01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:12,320 forward 2013 01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:16,080 slash fade to black virtual shield vpn 2014 01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:18,000 and uh our guest tonight danny sheehan 2015 01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:19,760 now uh danny 2016 01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:23,360 um they're uh uh why i need 2017 01:29:26,870 --> 01:29:25,840 uh i almost need to make a general 2018 01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:26,880 statement 2019 01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:29,199 uh which is this i have a lot of 2020 01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:30,960 relationships out there 2021 01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:34,239 uh so do you and 2022 01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:38,159 these next questions you know involve uh 2023 01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:39,920 you know relationships that i have 2024 01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:41,280 ongoing out there 2025 01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:44,159 and when i saw some of these uh 2026 01:29:49,510 --> 01:29:46,480 statements that were coming in 2027 01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:49,520 uh from the ufo community with with 2028 01:29:55,030 --> 01:29:50,880 questions about 2029 01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:55,040 what was being said i needed to ask 2030 01:30:00,550 --> 01:29:58,159 you directly about we need to 2031 01:30:01,189 --> 01:30:00,560 we need to put this stuff to bed and one 2032 01:30:04,149 --> 01:30:01,199 of them 2033 01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:04,159 was a statement from i i believe uh i'm 2034 01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:06,080 gonna have to paraphrase here from dr 2035 01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:09,280 greer that lou elizondo 2036 01:30:16,229 --> 01:30:12,960 said uh to somebody 2037 01:30:19,430 --> 01:30:16,239 and i believe that somebody was you uh 2038 01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:19,440 that he had seen uh 2039 01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:23,440 a crash disk or flying saucer in person 2040 01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:26,400 and then that was repeated now did were 2041 01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:28,159 these statements made 2042 01:30:32,390 --> 01:30:30,320 or was it a misunderstanding of the 2043 01:30:35,669 --> 01:30:32,400 statements can you clarify 2044 01:30:38,709 --> 01:30:35,679 all of this well it's a what it is 2045 01:30:39,830 --> 01:30:38,719 is there were uh there's some 2046 01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:39,840 information some 2047 01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:43,040 discussions that lou and i had 2048 01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:46,320 uh because because i have been 2049 01:30:50,310 --> 01:30:49,120 i have been uh in louisville 2050 01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:50,320 acknowledges to you that 2051 01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:53,760 that i've been pressing uh to 2052 01:31:00,550 --> 01:30:56,800 find out uh how much it 2053 01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:00,560 is that lou intends to make public 2054 01:31:07,189 --> 01:31:03,920 uh about what it is he knows and 2055 01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:07,199 how far is he going to go to get the 2056 01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:09,040 defense department to tell 2057 01:31:13,590 --> 01:31:12,560 the truth uh and in the context of those 2058 01:31:17,350 --> 01:31:13,600 discussions 2059 01:31:19,669 --> 01:31:17,360 with him which are attorney client 2060 01:31:22,390 --> 01:31:19,679 of course of course i i've been try i've 2061 01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:22,400 been trying to find out from him 2062 01:31:26,149 --> 01:31:24,880 uh what the different issues are that 2063 01:31:28,790 --> 01:31:26,159 are going to come up 2064 01:31:29,669 --> 01:31:28,800 uh about and there's all kinds of 2065 01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:29,679 information 2066 01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:32,960 that people have about you know we have 2067 01:31:39,189 --> 01:31:36,000 credit like lou says uh often 2068 01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:39,199 uh and and uh so so does chris mellon 2069 01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:41,280 you know that they're convinced that we 2070 01:31:45,110 --> 01:31:43,360 don't have anything like this 2071 01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:45,120 that you know like these crap that are 2072 01:31:49,189 --> 01:31:46,880 that are being seen right 2073 01:31:50,550 --> 01:31:49,199 uh yeah you know that they go that 2074 01:31:53,430 --> 01:31:50,560 travel at the speed of light 2075 01:31:53,990 --> 01:31:53,440 and uh and can you know come from 80 000 2076 01:31:58,229 --> 01:31:54,000 feet 2077 01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:58,239 surface of the ocean then 2078 01:32:02,950 --> 01:32:00,719 slow hover go into the ocean and travel 2079 01:32:05,350 --> 01:32:02,960 at 100 knots under the ocean 2080 01:32:06,790 --> 01:32:05,360 that we don't have any technology like 2081 01:32:09,830 --> 01:32:06,800 that and so 2082 01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:09,840 you know without uh approaching any 2083 01:32:14,149 --> 01:32:11,440 attorney-client conversation i've had 2084 01:32:18,550 --> 01:32:14,159 with lou i've pressed lou 2085 01:32:21,830 --> 01:32:18,560 on trying to find out uh whether or not 2086 01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:21,840 he has been briefed in on 2087 01:32:28,629 --> 01:32:25,600 any of the technology that we have 2088 01:32:30,229 --> 01:32:28,639 and uh that one might assume without my 2089 01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:30,239 going into our particular conversation 2090 01:32:35,910 --> 01:32:32,880 one might assume that i would ask him 2091 01:32:38,950 --> 01:32:35,920 uh whether he's been briefed in on the 2092 01:32:39,750 --> 01:32:38,960 uh efforts on the par of the uh the 2093 01:32:42,229 --> 01:32:39,760 various 2094 01:32:43,030 --> 01:32:42,239 corporations such as lockheed martin and 2095 01:32:44,950 --> 01:32:43,040 rockwell 2096 01:32:46,310 --> 01:32:44,960 international and others to back 2097 01:32:49,030 --> 01:32:46,320 engineer 2098 01:32:49,669 --> 01:32:49,040 any of this uh any of the uh downed 2099 01:32:51,750 --> 01:32:49,679 saucer 2100 01:32:53,030 --> 01:32:51,760 information that of course immediately 2101 01:32:55,750 --> 01:32:53,040 raises the question of 2102 01:32:58,950 --> 01:32:55,760 you know has been lube and briefed in on 2103 01:33:01,189 --> 01:32:58,960 whether there are any downed saucers 2104 01:33:01,990 --> 01:33:01,199 in any material well one would assume 2105 01:33:04,149 --> 01:33:02,000 that i 2106 01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:04,159 i asked him that question directly i 2107 01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:06,560 mean we all want to know this of course 2108 01:33:09,990 --> 01:33:09,280 yep yep and he what do you say to you 2109 01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:10,000 that 2110 01:33:13,750 --> 01:33:12,800 he didn't answer and i of course he 2111 01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:13,760 couldn't well i 2112 01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:16,480 you know he's he's uh he's got a 2113 01:33:21,430 --> 01:33:18,159 security oath and 2114 01:33:22,709 --> 01:33:21,440 um i'm gonna ask the question no matter 2115 01:33:25,590 --> 01:33:22,719 what and i asked him 2116 01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:25,600 all kinds of questions like this knowing 2117 01:33:28,149 --> 01:33:27,520 it was a zone that he probably couldn't 2118 01:33:30,870 --> 01:33:28,159 go into 2119 01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:30,880 i didn't expect an answer but then again 2120 01:33:35,350 --> 01:33:33,120 i wouldn't be doing my job danny right 2121 01:33:36,390 --> 01:33:35,360 no that's that's right no that's right 2122 01:33:38,950 --> 01:33:36,400 it's uh and 2123 01:33:41,110 --> 01:33:38,960 that uh and so uh i wouldn't have been 2124 01:33:43,350 --> 01:33:41,120 doing my job without asking him 2125 01:33:44,149 --> 01:33:43,360 of course and so because because i i 2126 01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:44,159 need to know 2127 01:33:51,189 --> 01:33:48,000 what the what the potential uh areas are 2128 01:33:54,229 --> 01:33:51,199 that that he has been briefed in on 2129 01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:54,239 and what levels of security uh 2130 01:33:58,149 --> 01:33:56,560 ostensibly pertain to any of the 2131 01:34:01,270 --> 01:33:58,159 information that he's been 2132 01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:01,280 given and an issue came up about 2133 01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:05,040 as you know uh dr greer uh 2134 01:34:09,910 --> 01:34:08,159 not not exactly in the context of the 2135 01:34:11,270 --> 01:34:09,920 disclosure project the disclosure 2136 01:34:14,070 --> 01:34:11,280 project itself 2137 01:34:15,430 --> 01:34:14,080 uh has been committed since at least 2138 01:34:17,990 --> 01:34:15,440 2001 2139 01:34:20,070 --> 01:34:18,000 to trying to get all of the information 2140 01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:20,080 that the defense department has about 2141 01:34:23,990 --> 01:34:20,880 ufos 2142 01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:24,000 revealed uh but the 2143 01:34:30,229 --> 01:34:27,520 the dr greer has taken the position as 2144 01:34:30,950 --> 01:34:30,239 you almost certainly know that he 2145 01:34:34,070 --> 01:34:30,960 believes 2146 01:34:36,870 --> 01:34:34,080 that this the increased reporting 2147 01:34:37,270 --> 01:34:36,880 of these ufos is going just taking place 2148 01:34:41,030 --> 01:34:37,280 now 2149 01:34:44,870 --> 01:34:41,040 they're real and talking about these 2150 01:34:47,990 --> 01:34:44,880 numerous sites off virginia and off baja 2151 01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:48,000 he believes uh quite firmly that 2152 01:34:55,109 --> 01:34:52,080 this is all a a a pretext 2153 01:34:58,390 --> 01:34:55,119 uh using existent uh back 2154 01:35:00,629 --> 01:34:58,400 engineered technology uh that our 2155 01:35:01,669 --> 01:35:00,639 uh lockheed martin and the people at the 2156 01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:01,679 skunk works 2157 01:35:05,350 --> 01:35:03,040 you know ben rich and the rest of the 2158 01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:05,360 people have actually developed 2159 01:35:12,709 --> 01:35:09,119 uh using materials taken from downed 2160 01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:12,719 saucers yeah extraterrestrial craft 2161 01:35:19,109 --> 01:35:16,400 not that's right not of this star system 2162 01:35:19,669 --> 01:35:19,119 from somewhere else yes that's right and 2163 01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:19,679 and that 2164 01:35:24,070 --> 01:35:22,400 he he takes that position that that he's 2165 01:35:27,189 --> 01:35:24,080 convinced uh from what 2166 01:35:30,470 --> 01:35:27,199 people he's spoken with that that uh our 2167 01:35:33,510 --> 01:35:30,480 uh the the group that are the 2168 01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:33,520 the uh the descendants of uh 2169 01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:36,400 mj-12 uh that group of private 2170 01:35:40,070 --> 01:35:37,440 corporations 2171 01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:40,080 and scientists etc that are functioning 2172 01:35:45,030 --> 01:35:42,480 outside of the normal uh 2173 01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:45,040 channels of the united states government 2174 01:35:49,109 --> 01:35:46,560 have in fact succeeded 2175 01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:49,119 in uh in back engineering these craft 2176 01:35:51,510 --> 01:35:49,600 and 2177 01:35:53,669 --> 01:35:51,520 predicated upon that belief that dr 2178 01:35:56,709 --> 01:35:53,679 greer has he believes that 2179 01:35:58,709 --> 01:35:56,719 a substantial number perhaps even a 2180 01:35:59,350 --> 01:35:58,719 majority of the sightings that people 2181 01:36:02,629 --> 01:35:59,360 have seen 2182 01:36:03,430 --> 01:36:02,639 over the past decade or so uh are in 2183 01:36:06,070 --> 01:36:03,440 fact 2184 01:36:06,790 --> 01:36:06,080 ours as he said they're now can you can 2185 01:36:10,149 --> 01:36:06,800 can dr 2186 01:36:13,270 --> 01:36:10,159 greer state that as fact though i i i 2187 01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:13,280 don't know that he can uh he he says 2188 01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:13,760 that 2189 01:36:20,310 --> 01:36:17,840 he is convinced and he is as you know 2190 01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:20,320 things that that dr greer becomes 2191 01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:22,080 convinced personally or true 2192 01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:25,520 he states as fact right uh and and uh 2193 01:36:28,870 --> 01:36:27,840 and you know that that's a style that 2194 01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:28,880 some people have 2195 01:36:32,629 --> 01:36:31,280 and so so he has been declaring that as 2196 01:36:35,669 --> 01:36:32,639 a matter of fact 2197 01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:35,679 he is is convinced that we have back 2198 01:36:40,149 --> 01:36:37,600 engineered these things successfully and 2199 01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:40,159 therefore we're flying these things 2200 01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:43,360 uh and therefore a significant plurality 2201 01:36:47,109 --> 01:36:45,040 if not a majority of the recent 2202 01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:47,119 sightings in the last 10 years or so 2203 01:36:53,189 --> 01:36:50,400 have been uh our military people uh 2204 01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:53,199 flying these things uh and then he's 2205 01:36:57,590 --> 01:36:54,480 taken the additional step 2206 01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:57,600 of saying that he believes that this is 2207 01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:01,199 all a precursor for undertaking 2208 01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:04,560 a a false flag uh operation 2209 01:37:11,109 --> 01:37:07,840 that uh that they are going to stage a 2210 01:37:14,310 --> 01:37:11,119 false flag uh attack by 2211 01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,320 uh an alien uh species and that 2212 01:37:17,669 --> 01:37:16,320 is the the ultimate dream of the 2213 01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:17,679 national security state 2214 01:37:21,189 --> 01:37:19,679 to be able to have access to literally 2215 01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:21,199 trillions of dollars 2216 01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:23,840 uh to develop a whole new generation of 2217 01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:24,719 weaponry 2218 01:37:30,390 --> 01:37:28,080 to combat this threat from off planet uh 2219 01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:30,400 and that there may even be a an ulterior 2220 01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:31,119 motive to 2221 01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:33,440 try to bring the whole world together to 2222 01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:35,199 stop all of this strife 2223 01:37:38,229 --> 01:37:37,840 et cetera uh i i've stated in you know 2224 01:37:40,870 --> 01:37:38,239 when i 2225 01:37:42,149 --> 01:37:40,880 i was with uh stephen uh back during the 2226 01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:42,159 20th anniversary 2227 01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:45,600 uh of the of the uh disclosure project 2228 01:37:49,750 --> 01:37:48,719 we were we were down in uh in phoenix 2229 01:37:52,709 --> 01:37:49,760 arizona 2230 01:37:53,109 --> 01:37:52,719 uh and and i i stated in the interview 2231 01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:53,119 uh 2232 01:37:56,790 --> 01:37:55,280 there that i didn't believe that i 2233 01:37:59,910 --> 01:37:56,800 didn't believe that's true 2234 01:38:03,430 --> 01:37:59,920 uh i uh i i'm not 2235 01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:03,440 uh i'm not i'm convinced 2236 01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:05,040 briefed in on i don't know i wasn't 2237 01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:07,119 briefed in on exactly what the 2238 01:38:11,189 --> 01:38:08,320 technology is 2239 01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:11,199 that we may have really developed but uh 2240 01:38:16,629 --> 01:38:13,040 since that time i have been 2241 01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:16,639 uh uh and uh it and it's it's clear that 2242 01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:17,360 they're 2243 01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:20,639 talked with 2244 01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:23,119 uh have made it clear to me that some of 2245 01:38:25,590 --> 01:38:24,719 the types of sightings that have 2246 01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:25,600 occurred 2247 01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:28,159 uh in the last 10 years or so there are 2248 01:38:33,030 --> 01:38:29,440 actual craft 2249 01:38:34,790 --> 01:38:33,040 that are being developed at s4 uh by ben 2250 01:38:37,270 --> 01:38:34,800 rich and the people in the skunk works 2251 01:38:37,990 --> 01:38:37,280 that are are so similar to those types 2252 01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:38,000 of craft 2253 01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:39,520 that they could easily have been that 2254 01:38:43,510 --> 01:38:41,199 type of craft uh 2255 01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:43,520 now that's that's not the super luminal 2256 01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:44,320 uh 2257 01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:46,239 vehicles that that travel the speed of 2258 01:38:51,350 --> 01:38:48,000 light and they're anti-gravity 2259 01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:51,360 vehicles and and driven by uh by electro 2260 01:38:55,669 --> 01:38:52,080 grav 2261 01:38:59,590 --> 01:38:55,679 craft 2262 01:39:02,310 --> 01:38:59,600 yes yes so so so what i'm saying is 2263 01:39:04,390 --> 01:39:02,320 is uh in dr greer when when i was there 2264 01:39:07,910 --> 01:39:04,400 for the 20th anniversary ceremony 2265 01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:07,920 was uh waxing eloquent uh about 2266 01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:10,960 his uh his conviction uh about both the 2267 01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:12,560 existence of these uh 2268 01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:15,760 back engineered craft and the the uh 2269 01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:16,400 coming 2270 01:39:20,709 --> 01:39:19,600 uh hoax uh of a of an alien invasion 2271 01:39:24,310 --> 01:39:20,719 which it was going to be 2272 01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:24,320 a uh a false flag operation now this 2273 01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:28,400 20th anniversary was two three weeks ago 2274 01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:30,000 yeah probably something like that yes 2275 01:39:35,189 --> 01:39:32,400 yes yeah and so and so i said 2276 01:39:36,950 --> 01:39:35,199 uh you know i i stated there uh in the 2277 01:39:39,669 --> 01:39:36,960 university i didn't believe that 2278 01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:39,679 uh i was perfectly familiar with the 2279 01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:41,520 background and history of false flag 2280 01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:42,480 operations 2281 01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:45,280 uh and i knew i knew that they're 2282 01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:46,880 perfectly capable of it 2283 01:39:50,310 --> 01:39:48,639 i stated that in the interview that 2284 01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:50,320 they're perfectly capable of something 2285 01:39:52,709 --> 01:39:50,880 like that 2286 01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:52,719 but i didn't think that this particular 2287 01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:54,880 geopolitical moment 2288 01:39:57,910 --> 01:39:55,920 that they were going to be doing 2289 01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:57,920 anything like that uh 2290 01:40:02,950 --> 01:40:00,800 and so i i stated that and so that the 2291 01:40:05,990 --> 01:40:02,960 issue came up about whether or not 2292 01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:06,000 there were what the state of 2293 01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:10,320 uh craft were and whether or not uh 2294 01:40:14,470 --> 01:40:13,040 whether or not lou elizondo had been 2295 01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:14,480 briefed in on 2296 01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:17,280 whether or not any materials had been 2297 01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:18,239 recovered 2298 01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:22,560 from downed uh extraterrestrial vehicles 2299 01:40:27,590 --> 01:40:25,760 and so uh as you might guess lou and i 2300 01:40:31,189 --> 01:40:27,600 have had that conversation 2301 01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:31,199 uh and so i i did have that conversation 2302 01:40:38,950 --> 01:40:34,480 uh with him about that question 2303 01:40:42,149 --> 01:40:38,960 uh and uh and there some confusion arose 2304 01:40:45,189 --> 01:40:42,159 as to whether not not between him and me 2305 01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:45,199 but among others about whether he 2306 01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:48,400 had uh had seen any of these materials 2307 01:40:52,070 --> 01:40:50,159 whether there was some place where these 2308 01:40:55,270 --> 01:40:52,080 materials were taken to 2309 01:40:57,750 --> 01:40:55,280 uh and then we started talking about the 2310 01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:57,760 uh the materials that had been put into 2311 01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:00,320 possession of bigelow aerospace 2312 01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:02,639 uh that that are talked about in the new 2313 01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:03,520 york times 2314 01:41:06,709 --> 01:41:05,360 that there are actually some exotic 2315 01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:06,719 materials uh 2316 01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:09,440 in hell put off uh has actually 2317 01:41:13,430 --> 01:41:10,480 described 2318 01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:13,440 uh some of these materials uh and i was 2319 01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:13,920 shocked 2320 01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:16,159 that put off would acknowledge that they 2321 01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:16,960 existed 2322 01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:19,440 uh even to the point of talking about uh 2323 01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:20,159 there being 2324 01:41:24,470 --> 01:41:22,480 technology displayed in the in the 2325 01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:24,480 crafting of these materials 2326 01:41:28,790 --> 01:41:27,360 that was nothing that we had uh the 2327 01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:28,800 technical ability to do 2328 01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:31,199 now does that put you in a strange 2329 01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:32,480 position 2330 01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:36,000 danny that you're representing lou 2331 01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:39,119 and you have obvious attorney-client 2332 01:41:43,109 --> 01:41:42,000 privilege there and discussions and then 2333 01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:43,119 statements 2334 01:41:48,629 --> 01:41:46,400 where are that that uh dr 2335 01:41:49,669 --> 01:41:48,639 greer is making you're now stuck in the 2336 01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:49,679 middle 2337 01:41:54,709 --> 01:41:53,040 uh what hot what that's 2338 01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:54,719 that's a strange position how do you 2339 01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:57,040 respond back to greer 2340 01:42:01,669 --> 01:42:00,000 with the what may be a misstatement or 2341 01:42:04,870 --> 01:42:01,679 something that was 2342 01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:04,880 uh how do i say this uh 2343 01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:08,480 uh theorized he's theorizing this 2344 01:42:13,189 --> 01:42:11,679 yeah i don't i don't i don't i don't get 2345 01:42:15,189 --> 01:42:13,199 back to go back and forth between 2346 01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:15,199 between the two 2347 01:42:18,550 --> 01:42:17,920 uh that i'm in this this interesting 2348 01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:18,560 position 2349 01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:21,280 of representing uh the disclosure 2350 01:42:25,109 --> 01:42:22,080 project 2351 01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:25,119 uh and at the same time representing lou 2352 01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:28,480 lou knew that at the time he retained me 2353 01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:30,639 uh and he knows it and has talked about 2354 01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:31,600 it uh 2355 01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:35,040 interview by 2356 01:42:39,910 --> 01:42:38,080 uh by richard dolan uh last thursday so 2357 01:42:41,669 --> 01:42:39,920 he's perfectly aware and what it is is 2358 01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:41,679 that if in fact 2359 01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:44,800 you represent particular clients 2360 01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:47,040 and the other clients know about it and 2361 01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:48,719 you brief them in on it and they know 2362 01:42:51,669 --> 01:42:50,320 that you represent them 2363 01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:51,679 then there's no problem with any 2364 01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:53,520 conflict because they they 2365 01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:56,080 are both aware of who it is that you're 2366 01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:56,800 representing 2367 01:43:00,709 --> 01:42:58,719 now a number of people became quite 2368 01:43:02,950 --> 01:43:00,719 distressed when they learned that i was 2369 01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:02,960 representing lou 2370 01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:05,840 because they had taken the position that 2371 01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:06,880 lou was 2372 01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:08,719 sort of a criminal fabricator of 2373 01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:10,480 information was a disinformation 2374 01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:11,280 specialist 2375 01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:14,080 was a cia covert operations guy and all 2376 01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:14,560 that 2377 01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:17,360 and and they were they were attributing 2378 01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:18,320 to him 2379 01:43:23,109 --> 01:43:21,520 some of the criticisms that uh that 2380 01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:23,119 were attached to the to the stars 2381 01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:25,280 academy and and also 2382 01:43:29,669 --> 01:43:28,159 back to greer and his most recent film 2383 01:43:33,350 --> 01:43:29,679 too as well 2384 01:43:37,270 --> 01:43:33,360 but but let me but so 2385 01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:37,280 did did dr greer in your opinion did he 2386 01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:38,880 get ahead of his skis 2387 01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:40,719 with making these statements about what 2388 01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:42,960 lou may or may not have seen 2389 01:43:46,629 --> 01:43:45,360 without a probably not speaking to lou 2390 01:43:50,709 --> 01:43:46,639 directly 2391 01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:50,719 or having something factual to base 2392 01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:53,840 that kind of statement on i don't i 2393 01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:55,679 don't i don't think that lou 2394 01:43:59,109 --> 01:43:58,480 and steven greer talk to each other 2395 01:44:05,990 --> 01:43:59,119 right 2396 01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:06,000 shuttling back and forth 2397 01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:09,040 between the two of them uh what it is is 2398 01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:11,840 is uh i i know both of them uh i 2399 01:44:16,149 --> 01:44:13,119 represent the disclosure 2400 01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:16,159 project uh and i i have a 2401 01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:19,119 in a well-known interest that lou knows 2402 01:44:23,109 --> 01:44:19,760 about 2403 01:44:24,870 --> 01:44:23,119 in trying to get uh the in for all the 2404 01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:24,880 information disclosed 2405 01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:32,870 but but my question to you is in your 2406 01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:34,239 opinion 2407 01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:37,520 as representation did dr greer just get 2408 01:44:44,390 --> 01:44:40,960 a little bit too far ahead of his skis 2409 01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:44,400 uh dr dr greer is uh 2410 01:44:52,149 --> 01:44:48,480 has a vocation he has a vocation to uh 2411 01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:52,159 to exercise all of the 2412 01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:55,360 the most uh careful presumptions of 2413 01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:57,360 uh malfeasance on the part of the 2414 01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:58,880 national security state 2415 01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:00,719 uh he believe he believe he believes 2416 01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:02,320 that if in fact uh 2417 01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:04,639 it's entirely possible that they're 2418 01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:06,159 doing something and he said this 2419 01:45:09,830 --> 01:45:08,960 he said he thinks it's way wiser to air 2420 01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:09,840 on the side 2421 01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:13,040 of accusing them ahead of time before 2422 01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:13,520 they 2423 01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:16,800 actually are doing this uh than it is to 2424 01:45:21,189 --> 01:45:18,400 wait until it's too late 2425 01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:21,199 uh and and he's actually said that uh 2426 01:45:24,629 --> 01:45:23,520 and so i i think you can take him at his 2427 01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:24,639 word on that 2428 01:45:28,709 --> 01:45:27,280 that he believes that that uh it's 2429 01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:28,719 better to air 2430 01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:31,920 uh on behalf of prematurely accusing 2431 01:45:35,430 --> 01:45:33,280 them of doing that 2432 01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:35,440 than waiting until it's too late now do 2433 01:45:40,070 --> 01:45:36,880 you feel i think that 2434 01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:40,080 occurs a lot i i i'll go with that 2435 01:45:44,070 --> 01:45:43,760 um now what about do you feel that there 2436 01:45:47,109 --> 01:45:44,080 are 2437 01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:47,119 some out there suggesting that you may 2438 01:45:54,310 --> 01:45:50,639 help uh bridge 2439 01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:54,320 some of these uh opposing opinions that 2440 01:45:59,109 --> 01:45:57,280 you may be able to help uh pull the team 2441 01:46:02,390 --> 01:45:59,119 together somewhat 2442 01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:02,400 yeah i i dare say i dare say that's true 2443 01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:05,760 yeah yeah i know paul poor paula harris 2444 01:46:09,510 --> 01:46:06,480 uh 2445 01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:09,520 had a she she became she became 2446 01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:12,560 uh ill when she learned that i was 2447 01:46:15,830 --> 01:46:14,880 i think it was coincidental uh she just 2448 01:46:18,229 --> 01:46:15,840 happened to get 2449 01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:18,239 she had to get ill at the same time she 2450 01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:19,199 learned that i was 2451 01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:22,400 representing lou but she was she was uh 2452 01:46:26,470 --> 01:46:24,719 taking the position that lou was a you 2453 01:46:29,510 --> 01:46:26,480 know a sort of a a 2454 01:46:30,790 --> 01:46:29,520 fabricator a a disinformation specialist 2455 01:46:31,990 --> 01:46:30,800 was working for the national security 2456 01:46:33,910 --> 01:46:32,000 state to try to 2457 01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:33,920 lure people into believing that there 2458 01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:35,520 was this imminent threat 2459 01:46:39,109 --> 01:46:38,000 posed by the ufo phenomena and of course 2460 01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:39,119 her entire life 2461 01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:41,600 has been steadfastly devoted to trying 2462 01:46:45,270 --> 01:46:43,119 to get people to appreciate 2463 01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:45,280 the need to have a friendly relationship 2464 01:46:50,149 --> 01:46:46,960 with extraterrestrial life 2465 01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:50,159 uh and so she was particularly uh 2466 01:46:55,189 --> 01:46:53,199 distressed at finding this out uh 2467 01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:55,199 and i think that what dr greer was 2468 01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:56,400 attempting to do 2469 01:46:59,750 --> 01:46:59,040 was attempting to come forward to to 2470 01:47:02,709 --> 01:46:59,760 relieve 2471 01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:02,719 people uh of a of a certain type of 2472 01:47:06,310 --> 01:47:03,520 confusion 2473 01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:06,320 and anxiety uh over learning that i was 2474 01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:07,040 representing lou 2475 01:47:10,870 --> 01:47:10,400 lozando uh because because dr greer was 2476 01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:10,880 taking 2477 01:47:15,750 --> 01:47:14,000 an extremely aggressive position uh with 2478 01:47:16,149 --> 01:47:15,760 regard to what he thought was the bad 2479 01:47:19,109 --> 01:47:16,159 faith 2480 01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:19,119 conduct on the part of louis elizondo 2481 01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:19,920 and so 2482 01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:23,119 uh i'm i'm in the process of of uh uh of 2483 01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:24,320 trying to make sure 2484 01:47:31,189 --> 01:47:28,320 that that uh that lou is fully protected 2485 01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:31,199 uh i'm uh and i believe lou when he says 2486 01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:31,760 that 2487 01:47:38,149 --> 01:47:36,159 and and commonly devoted 2488 01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:38,159 to the objective of getting all of the 2489 01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:40,800 truth out about the ufo phenomenon and 2490 01:47:43,189 --> 01:47:42,480 what the defense department knows about 2491 01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:43,199 it 2492 01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:45,119 because we want to have uh an 2493 01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,600 intelligent and well-informed dialogue 2494 01:47:52,310 --> 01:47:49,520 on the part of the people 2495 01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:52,320 about what we're to do about this uh 2496 01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:52,960 because 2497 01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:56,880 of times as chris mellon has said 2498 01:48:00,470 --> 01:48:00,080 he says that he does not based on all of 2499 01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:00,480 their 2500 01:48:04,709 --> 01:48:03,360 knowledge and investigations with him 2501 01:48:06,950 --> 01:48:04,719 being ahead of the the 2502 01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:06,960 the defense department group studying 2503 01:48:09,669 --> 01:48:08,159 this and uh 2504 01:48:12,070 --> 01:48:09,679 and chris mellon having been the 2505 01:48:14,870 --> 01:48:12,080 assistant secretary of defense 2506 01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:14,880 in charge of intelligence yeah that that 2507 01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:15,440 uh 2508 01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:18,639 they do not affirmatively believe 2509 01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:21,440 that this is russian uh technology and 2510 01:48:25,109 --> 01:48:22,080 they don't 2511 01:48:27,109 --> 01:48:25,119 believe that it's chinese uh 2512 01:48:28,870 --> 01:48:27,119 and then when they're asked well what do 2513 01:48:30,709 --> 01:48:28,880 you believe it is 2514 01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:30,719 and then chris would actually go so far 2515 01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:32,080 to say well it 2516 01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:35,760 raises the question are we alone 2517 01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:38,320 uh in the galaxy you know i mean now 2518 01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:40,080 when he says something like that 2519 01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:42,480 you know people get frustrated because 2520 01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:44,639 then they'll follow it up by saying 2521 01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:46,800 are you are you saying that uh that you 2522 01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:48,320 believe in the existence of 2523 01:48:52,629 --> 01:48:49,920 extraterrestrial life 2524 01:48:52,950 --> 01:48:52,639 and then chris will wax eloquent about 2525 01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:52,960 how 2526 01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:55,040 well clearly there's almost certainly uh 2527 01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:56,400 intelligent life elsewhere in the 2528 01:48:59,030 --> 01:48:57,360 universe 2529 01:49:00,550 --> 01:48:59,040 and it's probably reasonable to assume 2530 01:49:02,470 --> 01:49:00,560 that some of them have developed 2531 01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:02,480 a very high levels of technology he'll 2532 01:49:05,590 --> 01:49:04,080 go on like that and it's very 2533 01:49:07,990 --> 01:49:05,600 frustrating for people 2534 01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:08,000 who want to have a clear answer but 2535 01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:09,920 really what they're asking for 2536 01:49:13,109 --> 01:49:11,520 is an answer from people that are in 2537 01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:13,119 positions of authority well that's what 2538 01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:14,400 they want because they're still 2539 01:49:17,990 --> 01:49:16,480 that's the only one yeah that's the one 2540 01:49:20,390 --> 01:49:18,000 that's the only thing that a lot of 2541 01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:20,400 people will accept and i can appreciate 2542 01:49:24,629 --> 01:49:21,199 that 2543 01:49:25,510 --> 01:49:24,639 they're trained they're trained to 2544 01:49:27,510 --> 01:49:25,520 believe that 2545 01:49:29,990 --> 01:49:27,520 until and and that's why the new york 2546 01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:30,000 times having put the report on the front 2547 01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:30,639 page 2548 01:49:35,109 --> 01:49:33,360 uh that the ufos are real was so 2549 01:49:36,629 --> 01:49:35,119 important because a lot of people look 2550 01:49:39,669 --> 01:49:36,639 to the new york times 2551 01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:39,679 as kind of an authoritative source of 2552 01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:42,400 information uh and so when when they 2553 01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:43,119 reported 2554 01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:45,760 that the uh that it was that these were 2555 01:49:49,510 --> 01:49:46,480 real 2556 01:49:51,109 --> 01:49:49,520 and then the the defense department 2557 01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:51,119 actually came out with a statement 2558 01:49:55,589 --> 01:49:53,760 saying yes these vehicles are real 2559 01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:55,599 uh and they're unidentified now that 2560 01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:58,159 came from but this is my point danny 2561 01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:01,599 that came from susan gao okay 2562 01:50:10,149 --> 01:50:08,709 said that but my point but the defense 2563 01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:10,159 department people said it but 2564 01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:13,840 my point being that we have that side of 2565 01:50:18,790 --> 01:50:14,239 it 2566 01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:18,800 and then we have the other side that 2567 01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:20,639 says well lou had nothing to do with 2568 01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:22,960 this so they don't want to believe that 2569 01:50:26,470 --> 01:50:25,040 but they want to believe the other part 2570 01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:26,480 that they want to believe is that 2571 01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:27,360 cognitive 2572 01:50:30,790 --> 01:50:29,760 dissonance you know playing out right in 2573 01:50:32,629 --> 01:50:30,800 front of us 2574 01:50:34,070 --> 01:50:32,639 you only want to choose what you want to 2575 01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:34,080 believe 2576 01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:36,960 no no what it is is that there appears 2577 01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:38,400 to be uh 2578 01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:42,000 a a dual uh set of communications coming 2579 01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:43,199 out of the defense department 2580 01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:46,400 what do we do and so well what we do 2581 01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:50,000 is we retain danny sheehan to be to be 2582 01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:51,920 the attorney right on both sides of the 2583 01:50:57,350 --> 01:50:53,920 dot both sides of the dialogue 2584 01:50:59,589 --> 01:50:57,360 uh and then i get engaged uh 2585 01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:59,599 encountering and engaging the defense 2586 01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:01,119 department to say okay 2587 01:51:05,669 --> 01:51:04,080 look uh if if there are people inside 2588 01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:05,679 the defense department asserting 2589 01:51:08,629 --> 01:51:08,000 publicly that lou elizondo is lying 2590 01:51:11,270 --> 01:51:08,639 about 2591 01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:11,280 the existence of atip then let's find 2592 01:51:14,229 --> 01:51:12,719 out what the official position of the 2593 01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:14,239 defense department is 2594 01:51:17,589 --> 01:51:16,000 is the official position the statements 2595 01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:17,599 that have been made by other people whom 2596 01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:18,480 we identify 2597 01:51:21,910 --> 01:51:20,400 right state admitting that it exists and 2598 01:51:22,870 --> 01:51:21,920 admitting that lou was the director of 2599 01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:22,880 it etc 2600 01:51:26,229 --> 01:51:25,679 uh or are are you going to uh correct 2601 01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:26,239 that 2602 01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:27,440 are you going to correct the people 2603 01:51:31,030 --> 01:51:29,440 saying it's not true what is it you 2604 01:51:32,950 --> 01:51:31,040 intend to do about this 2605 01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:32,960 uh so the fact of the matter is the 2606 01:51:35,589 --> 01:51:34,400 bureaucracy probably wouldn't have done 2607 01:51:36,790 --> 01:51:35,599 anything about this 2608 01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:36,800 they would have just allowed these 2609 01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:38,800 disparate statements to keep being made 2610 01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:41,040 if it weren't for the fact that lou came 2611 01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:42,800 to me and retained me and said look at 2612 01:51:46,870 --> 01:51:43,520 let's 2613 01:51:49,109 --> 01:51:46,880 we get 2614 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got 2739 01:57:03,270 --> 01:56:58,880 that pony 2740 01:57:07,750 --> 01:57:05,430 this is fade to black with jimmy church 2741 01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:07,760 on the game changer radio network 2742 01:57:26,709 --> 01:57:25,119 and kgra the global radio alliance 2743 01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:26,719 welcome back fade to black i'm your host 2744 01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:28,560 jimmy church tonight danny sheen 2745 01:57:33,109 --> 01:57:32,159 is here always great always an amazing 2746 01:57:35,830 --> 01:57:33,119 conversation 2747 01:57:37,910 --> 01:57:35,840 we are in the middle of some of the 2748 01:57:38,550 --> 01:57:37,920 craziest times we've ever been in i've 2749 01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:38,560 been uh 2750 01:57:44,470 --> 01:57:42,080 chasing the ufo uh question uh for 2751 01:57:46,550 --> 01:57:44,480 almost 50 years and and so was danny's 2752 01:57:49,109 --> 01:57:46,560 been right in the middle of it all 2753 01:57:50,310 --> 01:57:49,119 and and and danny getting your insight 2754 01:57:53,109 --> 01:57:50,320 on all of this 2755 01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:53,119 is is just amazing for not only myself 2756 01:57:56,629 --> 01:57:54,880 personally but the community 2757 01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:56,639 and i have to ask you i want to go 2758 01:58:01,109 --> 01:57:58,080 straight at this uap 2759 01:58:05,030 --> 01:58:01,119 task force uh special report 2760 01:58:08,470 --> 01:58:05,040 um i'm i'm just gonna ask you straight 2761 01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:08,480 do you expect 2762 01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:11,440 a conversation in this report about 2763 01:58:15,750 --> 01:58:13,280 little green men 2764 01:58:17,189 --> 01:58:15,760 i'm talking about a conversation of 2765 01:58:20,550 --> 01:58:17,199 something 2766 01:58:22,629 --> 01:58:20,560 not of this earth interstellar or is 2767 01:58:25,350 --> 01:58:22,639 this going to be 2768 01:58:27,350 --> 01:58:25,360 a military conversation it's going to be 2769 01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:27,360 a drones conversation it's going to be 2770 01:58:30,470 --> 01:58:28,480 technology 2771 01:58:32,470 --> 01:58:30,480 of a foreign adversary you know china 2772 01:58:34,709 --> 01:58:32,480 and russia or 2773 01:58:36,070 --> 01:58:34,719 many are expecting some type of 2774 01:58:37,510 --> 01:58:36,080 disclosure 2775 01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:37,520 what do you think's going to be in this 2776 01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:39,360 report well i 2777 01:58:42,790 --> 01:58:41,920 i think i think that we need to 2778 01:58:45,830 --> 01:58:42,800 understand the 2779 01:58:49,990 --> 01:58:45,840 the the task force itself 2780 01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:50,000 uh that the uh uap task force inside 2781 01:58:54,870 --> 01:58:52,960 the the office of naval intelligence is 2782 01:58:55,830 --> 01:58:54,880 not going to file the report with the 2783 01:58:58,070 --> 01:58:55,840 senate 2784 01:59:00,790 --> 01:58:58,080 they're going to file it with the the 2785 01:59:03,350 --> 01:59:00,800 director of national intelligence 2786 01:59:04,390 --> 01:59:03,360 uh and so as i said earlier the dni's 2787 01:59:06,470 --> 01:59:04,400 office 2788 01:59:07,990 --> 01:59:06,480 uh is going to make a decision about 2789 01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:08,000 what it's going to report 2790 01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:10,080 to the senate it's going to sanitize the 2791 01:59:12,870 --> 01:59:12,239 repo it's going to sanitize the report 2792 01:59:17,109 --> 01:59:12,880 they have an 2793 01:59:20,390 --> 01:59:17,119 opportunity to edit yes yes 2794 01:59:22,709 --> 01:59:20,400 that's they they view they view this as 2795 01:59:24,310 --> 01:59:22,719 uh being it's it's a it's an 2796 01:59:26,629 --> 01:59:24,320 intelligence report 2797 01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:26,639 uh that this is an intelligence mission 2798 01:59:31,189 --> 01:59:28,800 an intelligence gathering mission 2799 01:59:32,390 --> 01:59:31,199 that the uh that the task force of naval 2800 01:59:33,830 --> 01:59:32,400 intelligence has 2801 01:59:35,189 --> 01:59:33,840 and so therefore they're going to filter 2802 01:59:36,070 --> 01:59:35,199 it through the director of national 2803 01:59:37,990 --> 01:59:36,080 intelligence 2804 01:59:39,270 --> 01:59:38,000 and what we're going to get is a process 2805 01:59:39,669 --> 01:59:39,280 it's not going to have the same degree 2806 01:59:41,990 --> 01:59:39,679 of bad 2807 01:59:43,510 --> 01:59:42,000 faith that the attorney general had when 2808 01:59:50,790 --> 01:59:43,520 he filtered 2809 01:59:53,189 --> 01:59:50,800 attorney general uh what's his head uh 2810 01:59:54,470 --> 01:59:53,199 you know filtered filtered the the uh 2811 01:59:57,189 --> 01:59:54,480 investigation 2812 01:59:58,310 --> 01:59:57,199 of the special prosecutor uh with regard 2813 02:00:00,149 --> 01:59:58,320 to trump 2814 02:00:01,350 --> 02:00:00,159 you're not going to get that type of 2815 02:00:05,109 --> 02:00:01,360 william barr 2816 02:00:06,950 --> 02:00:05,119 type of total distortion of what it says 2817 02:00:08,629 --> 02:00:06,960 uh what's going to happen is there's 2818 02:00:09,589 --> 02:00:08,639 going to be a decision made at the 2819 02:00:12,070 --> 02:00:09,599 highest levels 2820 02:00:13,030 --> 02:00:12,080 of the the top of the national security 2821 02:00:15,109 --> 02:00:13,040 infrastructure 2822 02:00:16,870 --> 02:00:15,119 about what information is going to be 2823 02:00:17,669 --> 02:00:16,880 conveyed to the senate intelligence 2824 02:00:20,470 --> 02:00:17,679 committee 2825 02:00:21,669 --> 02:00:20,480 uh or to the uh the senate armed 2826 02:00:23,669 --> 02:00:21,679 services committee 2827 02:00:24,870 --> 02:00:23,679 now there there has been no discussion 2828 02:00:27,990 --> 02:00:24,880 yet about briefing 2829 02:00:29,589 --> 02:00:28,000 the the the big eight you know that that 2830 02:00:30,709 --> 02:00:29,599 special group of eight people from the 2831 02:00:32,950 --> 02:00:30,719 house and senate 2832 02:00:34,149 --> 02:00:32,960 that uh they get briefed on on things 2833 02:00:37,589 --> 02:00:34,159 once in a while 2834 02:00:40,709 --> 02:00:37,599 uh but the the fact of the matter is 2835 02:00:44,229 --> 02:00:40,719 the this is not going to be uh in 2836 02:00:45,750 --> 02:00:44,239 any way a forthcoming 2837 02:00:47,750 --> 02:00:45,760 it's not going to be just it's not going 2838 02:00:50,310 --> 02:00:47,760 to be the big d 2839 02:00:51,030 --> 02:00:50,320 no no it's not going to be this is it's 2840 02:00:55,510 --> 02:00:51,040 going to 2841 02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:55,520 as it can possibly get away with 2842 02:01:01,430 --> 02:00:58,560 uh in light of whatever public pressure 2843 02:01:03,030 --> 02:01:01,440 and demand from the press is is 2844 02:01:06,310 --> 02:01:03,040 generated between now 2845 02:01:08,870 --> 02:01:06,320 and the and the 21st i think it's the 2846 02:01:09,510 --> 02:01:08,880 i think it's the 21st of june of it is 2847 02:01:12,229 --> 02:01:09,520 the date 2848 02:01:12,950 --> 02:01:12,239 that is anticipated here uh let's see 2849 02:01:15,189 --> 02:01:12,960 here the 2850 02:01:15,990 --> 02:01:15,199 the i think i think it is the 21st or 2851 02:01:20,070 --> 02:01:16,000 something 2852 02:01:21,750 --> 02:01:20,080 24th 24th yeah 24th yeah and so and so 2853 02:01:23,189 --> 02:01:21,760 what they're going to do is they're 2854 02:01:25,589 --> 02:01:23,199 going to see how 2855 02:01:27,990 --> 02:01:25,599 aggressive the the community is going to 2856 02:01:30,470 --> 02:01:28,000 be and what they're demanding here 2857 02:01:31,830 --> 02:01:30,480 this is a political nothing ever happens 2858 02:01:34,390 --> 02:01:31,840 in washington dc 2859 02:01:36,390 --> 02:01:34,400 because it's the right thing to do it's 2860 02:01:39,510 --> 02:01:36,400 always a political decision 2861 02:01:41,510 --> 02:01:39,520 uh and the the question is how high up 2862 02:01:43,669 --> 02:01:41,520 is that decision going to go 2863 02:01:45,430 --> 02:01:43,679 and given the fact that the president 2864 02:01:46,709 --> 02:01:45,440 doesn't get briefed in on this step the 2865 02:01:47,589 --> 02:01:46,719 head of the defense department doesn't 2866 02:01:49,109 --> 02:01:47,599 get briefed in 2867 02:01:51,189 --> 02:01:49,119 the the director of national 2868 02:01:54,310 --> 02:01:51,199 intelligence doesn't get briefed 2869 02:01:57,109 --> 02:01:54,320 in uh normally about this material 2870 02:01:57,510 --> 02:01:57,119 uh so the the the head the defense the 2871 02:02:00,550 --> 02:01:57,520 uh 2872 02:02:02,550 --> 02:02:00,560 the national intelligence person the 2873 02:02:04,790 --> 02:02:02,560 the head of the the department of 2874 02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:04,800 national intelligence isn't going to get 2875 02:02:08,070 --> 02:02:06,080 briefed in 2876 02:02:10,310 --> 02:02:08,080 about this i dare say that the people 2877 02:02:12,470 --> 02:02:10,320 that are involved in the task force 2878 02:02:13,750 --> 02:02:12,480 are not going to get briefed in by on 2879 02:02:16,629 --> 02:02:13,760 this and so 2880 02:02:18,709 --> 02:02:16,639 there's an awful lot of pretense going 2881 02:02:21,669 --> 02:02:18,719 on here a lot of show going on 2882 02:02:23,910 --> 02:02:21,679 uh the question is is uh how much if 2883 02:02:24,470 --> 02:02:23,920 anything is going to be set forth in 2884 02:02:26,470 --> 02:02:24,480 this 2885 02:02:27,830 --> 02:02:26,480 and and i believe that what you're going 2886 02:02:29,510 --> 02:02:27,840 to get is a 2887 02:02:31,430 --> 02:02:29,520 delay they're going to push it down the 2888 02:02:33,189 --> 02:02:31,440 road they're going to say oh this is a 2889 02:02:34,790 --> 02:02:33,199 very complex issue 2890 02:02:36,390 --> 02:02:34,800 there's different agencies at different 2891 02:02:38,870 --> 02:02:36,400 times have been involved 2892 02:02:40,070 --> 02:02:38,880 the fbi had some information the cia had 2893 02:02:41,350 --> 02:02:40,080 some information 2894 02:02:42,550 --> 02:02:41,360 you know there are different agencies 2895 02:02:43,270 --> 02:02:42,560 that have had different pieces of 2896 02:02:45,510 --> 02:02:43,280 information 2897 02:02:46,629 --> 02:02:45,520 and they're going to do the the 911 uh 2898 02:02:49,430 --> 02:02:46,639 [\h__\h] here uh 2899 02:02:50,629 --> 02:02:49,440 jiggling back and forth well you know a 2900 02:02:51,910 --> 02:02:50,639 lot of the problem is here 2901 02:02:53,750 --> 02:02:51,920 you've heard chris mellon kind of 2902 02:02:55,510 --> 02:02:53,760 already uh indicate this 2903 02:02:57,270 --> 02:02:55,520 oh you know there's there's an awful lot 2904 02:02:59,350 --> 02:02:57,280 of confusion here one department doesn't 2905 02:03:01,990 --> 02:02:59,360 know what another department knows and 2906 02:03:03,270 --> 02:03:02,000 like for example there are there are 2907 02:03:06,310 --> 02:03:03,280 agencies here 2908 02:03:09,430 --> 02:03:06,320 uh that are involved that that even 2909 02:03:10,149 --> 02:03:09,440 you uh have never even heard of you you 2910 02:03:12,149 --> 02:03:10,159 don't you don't 2911 02:03:13,270 --> 02:03:12,159 you wouldn't even recognize the name of 2912 02:03:16,149 --> 02:03:13,280 these that 2913 02:03:16,709 --> 02:03:16,159 for for example there there is a group 2914 02:03:19,510 --> 02:03:16,719 called 2915 02:03:20,790 --> 02:03:19,520 the national air and space intelligence 2916 02:03:22,870 --> 02:03:20,800 center 2917 02:03:23,830 --> 02:03:22,880 that that i dare say you've never heard 2918 02:03:26,790 --> 02:03:23,840 about i 2919 02:03:28,310 --> 02:03:26,800 i have never heard of that agency and 2920 02:03:30,070 --> 02:03:28,320 you you've never heard of the agency 2921 02:03:33,109 --> 02:03:30,080 that's above them which is the 2922 02:03:36,629 --> 02:03:33,119 national geospatial intelligence 2923 02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:36,639 agency the national geospatial 2924 02:03:39,669 --> 02:03:38,159 intelligence agency 2925 02:03:41,189 --> 02:03:39,679 you have never heard of these people 2926 02:03:42,629 --> 02:03:41,199 right and so that 2927 02:03:44,870 --> 02:03:42,639 so what they're going to say is oh well 2928 02:03:46,550 --> 02:03:44,880 there's all these different alphabet 2929 02:03:48,310 --> 02:03:46,560 groups that have got pieces of this 2930 02:03:49,430 --> 02:03:48,320 information and 2931 02:03:51,430 --> 02:03:49,440 and then you're going to get the old 2932 02:03:53,750 --> 02:03:51,440 razzmatazz that well and there's some of 2933 02:03:55,189 --> 02:03:53,760 this information that is proprietary 2934 02:03:57,669 --> 02:03:55,199 interest on the part of major 2935 02:03:59,430 --> 02:03:57,679 corporations so is in that we're not 2936 02:04:00,790 --> 02:03:59,440 even at liberty to discuss who those 2937 02:04:02,470 --> 02:04:00,800 corporations are 2938 02:04:04,550 --> 02:04:02,480 even though we all know who they are 2939 02:04:05,270 --> 02:04:04,560 right of lockheed martin and rockwell 2940 02:04:06,950 --> 02:04:05,280 and the others 2941 02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:06,960 and they're gonna they're gonna do this 2942 02:04:12,069 --> 02:04:08,320 old dance 2943 02:04:13,350 --> 02:04:12,079 uh of uh this jitterbug dance that uh 2944 02:04:16,069 --> 02:04:13,360 they are they aren't going to give you 2945 02:04:19,189 --> 02:04:16,079 the information so what do we say 2946 02:04:21,910 --> 02:04:19,199 oh well man i i just interrupted the 2947 02:04:25,030 --> 02:04:21,920 great danny sheehan but 2948 02:04:29,350 --> 02:04:25,040 the there are so many new 2949 02:04:32,470 --> 02:04:29,360 faces in ufology that are here 2950 02:04:34,149 --> 02:04:32,480 because of december of 2017 in the 2951 02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:34,159 new york times they haven't been through 2952 02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:36,000 what you have been through they haven't 2953 02:04:39,030 --> 02:04:36,320 been 2954 02:04:39,830 --> 02:04:39,040 through uh the ebb and flow and the ups 2955 02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:39,840 and downs 2956 02:04:43,910 --> 02:04:43,280 of things of the past but if this plays 2957 02:04:46,790 --> 02:04:43,920 out 2958 02:04:48,069 --> 02:04:46,800 this time around where the can gets 2959 02:04:51,910 --> 02:04:48,079 kicked down the road 2960 02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:51,920 there isn't disclosure in june of 2021 2961 02:04:53,830 --> 02:04:52,320 right 2962 02:04:56,870 --> 02:04:53,840 there's gonna be a lot of broken hearts 2963 02:04:59,270 --> 02:04:56,880 out there well broken hearts you know 2964 02:05:00,790 --> 02:04:59,280 that's uh people that they're the the 2965 02:05:01,990 --> 02:05:00,800 defense department they're in the broken 2966 02:05:04,709 --> 02:05:02,000 hearts business 2967 02:05:06,069 --> 02:05:04,719 you know i mean that the the cia is 2968 02:05:07,910 --> 02:05:06,079 involved in this you know when you when 2969 02:05:09,669 --> 02:05:07,920 you have a guy like jim simivan 2970 02:05:11,990 --> 02:05:09,679 you know being part of the to the stars 2971 02:05:14,950 --> 02:05:12,000 academy and jim simivan 2972 02:05:16,149 --> 02:05:14,960 is the director of covert operations for 2973 02:05:19,270 --> 02:05:16,159 the central intelligence 2974 02:05:20,870 --> 02:05:19,280 agency domestically 2975 02:05:22,390 --> 02:05:20,880 you know that there's a problem here 2976 02:05:23,669 --> 02:05:22,400 because that's illegal and that's a 2977 02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:23,679 paradox in itself 2978 02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:25,679 right yeah yeah as well as more than a 2979 02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:27,440 paradox you know i mean it's 2980 02:05:30,709 --> 02:05:29,360 it's a criminal enterprise right you 2981 02:05:33,109 --> 02:05:30,719 know and that and 2982 02:05:34,790 --> 02:05:33,119 so the so that when when you have people 2983 02:05:35,430 --> 02:05:34,800 involved in this who have been engaged 2984 02:05:37,510 --> 02:05:35,440 in activity 2985 02:05:38,790 --> 02:05:37,520 you get understand these people inside 2986 02:05:40,310 --> 02:05:38,800 the executive branch 2987 02:05:42,310 --> 02:05:40,320 they hold the same belief that richard 2988 02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:42,320 nixon did that when the president does 2989 02:05:46,069 --> 02:05:42,560 it 2990 02:05:47,990 --> 02:05:46,079 richard nixon said 2991 02:05:49,510 --> 02:05:48,000 that he has the authority to pardon 2992 02:05:50,470 --> 02:05:49,520 everybody so he has the authority to 2993 02:05:52,790 --> 02:05:50,480 commit crimes 2994 02:05:54,950 --> 02:05:52,800 and nobody can do anything about it you 2995 02:05:56,470 --> 02:05:54,960 know and all they can do is impeach him 2996 02:05:58,310 --> 02:05:56,480 the fact of the matter is the people 2997 02:06:01,030 --> 02:05:58,320 that are above the president 2998 02:06:02,870 --> 02:06:01,040 uh with regard to this issue who harbor 2999 02:06:04,629 --> 02:06:02,880 this information and refuse to brief 3000 02:06:05,669 --> 02:06:04,639 people like jimmy carter they refuse to 3001 02:06:07,910 --> 02:06:05,679 breed people like 3002 02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:07,920 like uh bill clinton they refuse to 3003 02:06:11,270 --> 02:06:09,040 brief people like 3004 02:06:12,229 --> 02:06:11,280 barack obama uh they're going to refuse 3005 02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:12,239 to brief people 3006 02:06:15,669 --> 02:06:14,320 like joe biden uh they're going to 3007 02:06:17,669 --> 02:06:15,679 refuse to to 3008 02:06:19,510 --> 02:06:17,679 brief the the head of the national 3009 02:06:20,950 --> 02:06:19,520 intelligence uh and so they're going to 3010 02:06:21,830 --> 02:06:20,960 keep the information they're not going 3011 02:06:23,750 --> 02:06:21,840 to reveal it 3012 02:06:25,589 --> 02:06:23,760 you know and the people that are people 3013 02:06:27,589 --> 02:06:25,599 that are at this low level 3014 02:06:29,270 --> 02:06:27,599 uh in this task force that's now in the 3015 02:06:31,910 --> 02:06:29,280 office of naval intelligence 3016 02:06:33,109 --> 02:06:31,920 uh they they don't they don't know 3017 02:06:35,430 --> 02:06:33,119 one-fifth 3018 02:06:37,109 --> 02:06:35,440 of the information they don't even have 3019 02:06:38,229 --> 02:06:37,119 it you know and they're not going to be 3020 02:06:40,390 --> 02:06:38,239 given it 3021 02:06:41,750 --> 02:06:40,400 the question is can we use this moment 3022 02:06:45,189 --> 02:06:41,760 to break through this 3023 02:06:46,870 --> 02:06:45,199 can we can we rouse enough people 3024 02:06:48,310 --> 02:06:46,880 inside the national security state 3025 02:06:49,910 --> 02:06:48,320 bureaucracy who 3026 02:06:51,350 --> 02:06:49,920 figure that it's time to let this 3027 02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:51,360 information come forward 3028 02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:53,440 can we mobilize enough of them so they 3029 02:06:56,149 --> 02:06:55,360 come forward i've done this in the past 3030 02:06:59,030 --> 02:06:56,159 as you know 3031 02:07:00,709 --> 02:06:59,040 uh i've done it with iran contra we had 3032 02:07:02,470 --> 02:07:00,719 uh once we filed the major federal 3033 02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:02,480 criminal racketeering lawsuit against 3034 02:07:05,109 --> 02:07:04,000 the people that were involved in running 3035 02:07:06,870 --> 02:07:05,119 the enterprise 3036 02:07:08,870 --> 02:07:06,880 uh you know we had people coming out of 3037 02:07:10,629 --> 02:07:08,880 the woodwork coming to us and giving us 3038 02:07:13,270 --> 02:07:10,639 information and giving us photos 3039 02:07:14,229 --> 02:07:13,280 we had the tail numbers of the airplanes 3040 02:07:16,310 --> 02:07:14,239 that were flying 3041 02:07:18,470 --> 02:07:16,320 the weapons down to the contras we had 3042 02:07:19,510 --> 02:07:18,480 the serial numbers on the weapons that 3043 02:07:21,910 --> 02:07:19,520 were being 3044 02:07:23,350 --> 02:07:21,920 being given to them and still the 3045 02:07:24,830 --> 02:07:23,360 congress the united states wouldn't do 3046 02:07:28,390 --> 02:07:24,840 anything about it 3047 02:07:31,669 --> 02:07:28,400 now now 3048 02:07:32,629 --> 02:07:31,679 with this you bring up such a great 3049 02:07:37,109 --> 02:07:32,639 point 3050 02:07:41,030 --> 02:07:37,119 somebody is leaking somebody is leaking 3051 02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:41,040 content from the uap task force report 3052 02:07:46,390 --> 02:07:44,480 we know that these recent videos uh 3053 02:07:47,669 --> 02:07:46,400 admitted by the pentagon that these were 3054 02:07:50,870 --> 02:07:47,679 part of the report 3055 02:07:54,149 --> 02:07:50,880 these images that were leaked were part 3056 02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:54,159 of who is doing the leaking somebody 3057 02:07:58,390 --> 02:07:55,840 somebody inside of the task force and 3058 02:07:58,709 --> 02:07:58,400 that's a very limited number of people i 3059 02:08:02,310 --> 02:07:58,719 would 3060 02:08:05,270 --> 02:08:02,320 think in scope danny somebody is 3061 02:08:06,709 --> 02:08:05,280 leaking this out and it seems to be on 3062 02:08:10,069 --> 02:08:06,719 purpose 3063 02:08:11,990 --> 02:08:10,079 well let's see the the the task force is 3064 02:08:13,109 --> 02:08:12,000 gathering together well for example some 3065 02:08:15,430 --> 02:08:13,119 of the pilots 3066 02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:15,440 that were flying off virginia and and 3067 02:08:17,990 --> 02:08:16,480 off the baja 3068 02:08:19,589 --> 02:08:18,000 you know they were taking photographs 3069 02:08:20,629 --> 02:08:19,599 with their private cameras out of their 3070 02:08:22,550 --> 02:08:20,639 cockpits 3071 02:08:24,790 --> 02:08:22,560 of these things you know less than 100 3072 02:08:27,350 --> 02:08:24,800 feet away you know i mean you get these 3073 02:08:28,149 --> 02:08:27,360 these uh gun camera uh footage of them 3074 02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,159 you know like 3075 02:08:31,830 --> 02:08:30,639 they're they're a mile away you know in 3076 02:08:33,669 --> 02:08:31,840 rotating and they're just getting 3077 02:08:35,350 --> 02:08:33,679 infrared signals of them but you know 3078 02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:35,360 they've got photographs of these things 3079 02:08:38,790 --> 02:08:36,639 you know less than 100 3080 02:08:40,709 --> 02:08:38,800 feet away from their airplanes and and 3081 02:08:43,109 --> 02:08:40,719 they were handing this information 3082 02:08:44,470 --> 02:08:43,119 in it isn't necessarily someone in the 3083 02:08:46,390 --> 02:08:44,480 task force is leaking it 3084 02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:46,400 it's the people that are getting the 3085 02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:47,520 information to them 3086 02:08:51,270 --> 02:08:49,440 that if there's a process coming 3087 02:08:52,790 --> 02:08:51,280 together to gather together a lot of 3088 02:08:53,510 --> 02:08:52,800 this information that's out floating 3089 02:08:54,950 --> 02:08:53,520 around 3090 02:08:57,030 --> 02:08:54,960 the people who are the source of 3091 02:08:58,790 --> 02:08:57,040 information can release it 3092 02:09:00,069 --> 02:08:58,800 uh and can give it to people and that's 3093 02:09:01,910 --> 02:09:00,079 what's happening here 3094 02:09:03,270 --> 02:09:01,920 it's not it's not the people that are in 3095 02:09:05,350 --> 02:09:03,280 the task force itself 3096 02:09:07,750 --> 02:09:05,360 the new head of the task force has been 3097 02:09:10,870 --> 02:09:07,760 put on there to ask for an extension 3098 02:09:11,750 --> 02:09:10,880 so it's not a guy it's not a concern if 3099 02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:11,760 the people 3100 02:09:15,589 --> 02:09:14,400 that that have these images on their 3101 02:09:18,790 --> 02:09:15,599 cell phones 3102 02:09:22,470 --> 02:09:18,800 if they are leaking it to the media 3103 02:09:25,510 --> 02:09:22,480 that's not a concern to the dni 3104 02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:25,520 or whoever inside of the the navy and 3105 02:09:34,950 --> 02:09:26,000 the 3106 02:09:37,830 --> 02:09:34,960 isn't that a concern 3107 02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:37,840 no if if they're getting the information 3108 02:09:41,350 --> 02:09:39,360 uh and they're 3109 02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:41,360 supposed to be giving it to the senate 3110 02:09:43,910 --> 02:09:42,880 you know what what's really happening 3111 02:09:46,229 --> 02:09:43,920 is there are people that are 3112 02:09:48,149 --> 02:09:46,239 interrupting the ability of the highest 3113 02:09:51,109 --> 02:09:48,159 levels of the national security state 3114 02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:51,119 to function in an illegal manner you 3115 02:09:53,350 --> 02:09:51,520 know 3116 02:09:54,709 --> 02:09:53,360 because they they function in an illegal 3117 02:09:55,189 --> 02:09:54,719 mass like the central intelligence 3118 02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:55,199 agency 3119 02:09:58,950 --> 02:09:57,199 is someone who leaks information about 3120 02:10:01,830 --> 02:09:58,960 the central intelligence agency 3121 02:10:03,910 --> 02:10:01,840 assassinating a head of state right are 3122 02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:03,920 they committing a criminal act 3123 02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:06,239 you know are they are they patriotic no 3124 02:10:09,750 --> 02:10:07,040 but that's why 3125 02:10:11,510 --> 02:10:09,760 but that's exactly my point it seems 3126 02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:11,520 like 3127 02:10:16,470 --> 02:10:14,560 the uap task force isn't raising a 3128 02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:16,480 concern about this 3129 02:10:22,790 --> 02:10:19,840 that's my point is it because 3130 02:10:23,830 --> 02:10:22,800 the uh you know like you're saying 3131 02:10:27,669 --> 02:10:23,840 they're 3132 02:10:29,109 --> 02:10:27,679 they wouldn't have exposed it right 3133 02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:29,119 right it wouldn't have gotten to the 3134 02:10:35,910 --> 02:10:33,040 public but it has gotten to the public 3135 02:10:37,189 --> 02:10:35,920 yes and and the the way that things are 3136 02:10:39,109 --> 02:10:37,199 coming out now 3137 02:10:40,390 --> 02:10:39,119 uh this is the what's so great about 3138 02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:40,400 this and that's why 3139 02:10:44,390 --> 02:10:42,880 the complaint that that lou has filed 3140 02:10:47,030 --> 02:10:44,400 with the inspector general 3141 02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:47,040 provides another avenue for this kind of 3142 02:10:49,669 --> 02:10:48,560 thing to be happening 3143 02:10:51,669 --> 02:10:49,679 you know when there's a major 3144 02:10:53,750 --> 02:10:51,679 investigation going on that 3145 02:10:54,790 --> 02:10:53,760 there's investigative reporters that are 3146 02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:54,800 all over this thing 3147 02:10:58,550 --> 02:10:57,280 starting now uh and they're they're not 3148 02:11:01,270 --> 02:10:58,560 under the control 3149 02:11:02,550 --> 02:11:01,280 uh of even the major news outlets these 3150 02:11:05,189 --> 02:11:02,560 are these are independent 3151 02:11:06,870 --> 02:11:05,199 investigative reporters some of them are 3152 02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:06,880 very very widely respected 3153 02:11:10,149 --> 02:11:08,800 you know that and that they're they're 3154 02:11:12,470 --> 02:11:10,159 going to be able to get at 3155 02:11:14,229 --> 02:11:12,480 some of this information and so as long 3156 02:11:14,950 --> 02:11:14,239 as there's a process going on gathering 3157 02:11:17,350 --> 02:11:14,960 it together 3158 02:11:19,189 --> 02:11:17,360 there's going to be leaks and it's the 3159 02:11:20,149 --> 02:11:19,199 leaks that are going to control how much 3160 02:11:21,910 --> 02:11:20,159 of this comes out 3161 02:11:23,750 --> 02:11:21,920 it isn't going to be a decision made by 3162 02:11:24,790 --> 02:11:23,760 the highest echelons of the national 3163 02:11:26,470 --> 02:11:24,800 defense 3164 02:11:28,069 --> 02:11:26,480 authorities right they aren't they're 3165 02:11:28,790 --> 02:11:28,079 going to stick with their old position 3166 02:11:30,149 --> 02:11:28,800 on this thing 3167 02:11:31,669 --> 02:11:30,159 but it's the leaks that are going to 3168 02:11:32,470 --> 02:11:31,679 really determine how much of this is 3169 02:11:36,870 --> 02:11:32,480 coming out 3170 02:11:39,510 --> 02:11:36,880 now do you think that um i questioned 3171 02:11:40,069 --> 02:11:39,520 why there wasn't a negative response 3172 02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:40,079 from 3173 02:11:44,229 --> 02:11:42,480 the pentagon or the navy about what was 3174 02:11:46,950 --> 02:11:44,239 being leaked 3175 02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:46,960 was it because they weren't concerned 3176 02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:48,960 with the content 3177 02:11:55,430 --> 02:11:52,000 in the leaks that they the leaks 3178 02:11:57,669 --> 02:11:55,440 didn't have uh uh a technical 3179 02:12:01,270 --> 02:11:57,679 information or was a compromise 3180 02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:01,280 of of our level of of 3181 02:12:04,790 --> 02:12:03,520 of technology that there wasn't anything 3182 02:12:07,990 --> 02:12:04,800 being exposed 3183 02:12:09,830 --> 02:12:08,000 that was the national security risk well 3184 02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:09,840 you know a lot of the argument they make 3185 02:12:13,430 --> 02:12:11,440 is method and means 3186 02:12:15,229 --> 02:12:13,440 means and method of collecting and it's 3187 02:12:17,830 --> 02:12:15,239 usually some very sophisticated 3188 02:12:19,109 --> 02:12:17,840 electromagnetic intelligence gathering 3189 02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:19,119 that they're worried about right 3190 02:12:22,790 --> 02:12:21,040 right right but when somebody's when 3191 02:12:24,229 --> 02:12:22,800 somebody's got a nikon camera and 3192 02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:24,239 they're turning in the cockpit of their 3193 02:12:28,229 --> 02:12:26,000 jet and taking a picture of this thing 3194 02:12:29,910 --> 02:12:28,239 there's 100 feet away it's not exactly 3195 02:12:31,750 --> 02:12:29,920 divulging high-level 3196 02:12:33,030 --> 02:12:31,760 national security means of gathering 3197 02:12:35,990 --> 02:12:33,040 that information 3198 02:12:38,310 --> 02:12:36,000 uh and and so that and plus it's very 3199 02:12:40,870 --> 02:12:38,320 difficult to tell 3200 02:12:42,149 --> 02:12:40,880 what the what the decision is that's 3201 02:12:43,830 --> 02:12:42,159 being made or whether there's some 3202 02:12:45,430 --> 02:12:43,840 collective decision being made at the 3203 02:12:46,870 --> 02:12:45,440 highest levels of the national security 3204 02:12:49,189 --> 02:12:46,880 bureaucracy right now 3205 02:12:50,629 --> 02:12:49,199 because the normal people that are in 3206 02:12:51,910 --> 02:12:50,639 charge of the national security 3207 02:12:54,790 --> 02:12:51,920 bureaucracy 3208 02:12:56,629 --> 02:12:54,800 aren't being briefed in on this subject 3209 02:12:57,189 --> 02:12:56,639 there's somebody higher that knows about 3210 02:12:59,350 --> 02:12:57,199 this 3211 02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:59,360 uh and they don't really dare show their 3212 02:13:03,030 --> 02:13:01,199 hand right uh so that 3213 02:13:05,189 --> 02:13:03,040 they're they're in a in the quandary 3214 02:13:06,470 --> 02:13:05,199 right now about how they can exercise 3215 02:13:09,109 --> 02:13:06,480 their authority over 3216 02:13:10,550 --> 02:13:09,119 all of these pilots all of these radar 3217 02:13:12,149 --> 02:13:10,560 experts all of these uh 3218 02:13:13,589 --> 02:13:12,159 these sailors that have seen these 3219 02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:13,599 things they the 3220 02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:15,920 the highest echelons don't quite know 3221 02:13:20,390 --> 02:13:17,199 how to get down 3222 02:13:22,709 --> 02:13:20,400 to muzzling those people and now that 3223 02:13:24,069 --> 02:13:22,719 the middle level echelons are 3224 02:13:25,910 --> 02:13:24,079 saying that they're willing to start 3225 02:13:27,910 --> 02:13:25,920 talking about this because they too are 3226 02:13:29,510 --> 02:13:27,920 irritated about the fact that they've 3227 02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:29,520 not been briefed in on this 3228 02:13:34,069 --> 02:13:31,280 and so they're they're not really 3229 02:13:36,950 --> 02:13:34,079 exercising their punitive authority 3230 02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:36,960 over a lot of these lower echelon people 3231 02:13:40,790 --> 02:13:38,560 you know you get people going on 3232 02:13:41,830 --> 02:13:40,800 louis elizondo's you know show on the 3233 02:13:43,510 --> 02:13:41,840 history channel 3234 02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:43,520 he finds these pilots and goes and 3235 02:13:46,790 --> 02:13:45,119 interviews them and the 3236 02:13:48,629 --> 02:13:46,800 the their immediate commanders are 3237 02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:48,639 saying well great you know let them talk 3238 02:13:51,589 --> 02:13:50,000 about it you know if the 3239 02:13:53,189 --> 02:13:51,599 higher-ups aren't going to brief me in 3240 02:13:54,709 --> 02:13:53,199 on what's going on then 3241 02:13:56,870 --> 02:13:54,719 i'm not going to take it out on my 3242 02:13:58,149 --> 02:13:56,880 subordinates if if they're being willing 3243 02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:58,159 to talk about this that's what's 3244 02:14:02,069 --> 02:13:59,119 happening right now 3245 02:14:02,870 --> 02:14:02,079 they're losing control of this uh and so 3246 02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:02,880 that 3247 02:14:06,229 --> 02:14:04,320 we need to see what's going to happen 3248 02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:06,239 but i i would say that you know on a 3249 02:14:08,870 --> 02:14:07,520 scale of 1-100 3250 02:14:11,350 --> 02:14:08,880 the amount of information that's going 3251 02:14:13,669 --> 02:14:11,360 to put come out of the report 3252 02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:13,679 that goes to the director of national 3253 02:14:18,069 --> 02:14:14,639 intelligence 3254 02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:18,079 is probably no more than 10 of the real 3255 02:14:21,510 --> 02:14:18,880 information 3256 02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:21,520 that's that exists on these these things 3257 02:14:24,629 --> 02:14:23,360 and the the dni the 3258 02:14:26,629 --> 02:14:24,639 the the director of national 3259 02:14:29,350 --> 02:14:26,639 intelligence is going to exercise 3260 02:14:30,950 --> 02:14:29,360 an additional level of security uh and 3261 02:14:31,910 --> 02:14:30,960 so that the ten percent that actually 3262 02:14:34,149 --> 02:14:31,920 comes to them 3263 02:14:35,030 --> 02:14:34,159 only half of that may get out so there's 3264 02:14:36,870 --> 02:14:35,040 only probably five 3265 02:14:38,709 --> 02:14:36,880 percent or so of this information that's 3266 02:14:41,430 --> 02:14:38,719 likely to come out in this report 3267 02:14:42,790 --> 02:14:41,440 and so but the question is are we in the 3268 02:14:44,629 --> 02:14:42,800 american citizenry 3269 02:14:46,629 --> 02:14:44,639 are we going to continue putting the 3270 02:14:48,390 --> 02:14:46,639 pressure on and using all of our 3271 02:14:50,790 --> 02:14:48,400 resources that we have in the 3272 02:14:53,109 --> 02:14:50,800 the investigative journalism community 3273 02:14:54,069 --> 02:14:53,119 uh then the media our media like this 3274 02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:54,079 your show 3275 02:14:57,430 --> 02:14:56,239 uh that they're are we gonna keep the 3276 02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:57,440 pressure on to say 3277 02:15:00,790 --> 02:14:59,840 this is not acceptable you know if you 3278 02:15:03,030 --> 02:15:00,800 think that you can 3279 02:15:04,149 --> 02:15:03,040 get away with this dog and pony show you 3280 02:15:06,390 --> 02:15:04,159 know of of 3281 02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:06,400 saying that oh in response to the the 3282 02:15:09,350 --> 02:15:08,320 three videos coming out all of a sudden 3283 02:15:11,589 --> 02:15:09,360 all you're gonna do 3284 02:15:13,030 --> 02:15:11,599 is tell us that oh there's three videos 3285 02:15:14,470 --> 02:15:13,040 and we think they're real 3286 02:15:16,870 --> 02:15:14,480 you know and but we don't know where 3287 02:15:18,870 --> 02:15:16,880 they're coming from uh and she poor us 3288 02:15:20,870 --> 02:15:18,880 we don't really know and it's gonna stop 3289 02:15:22,229 --> 02:15:20,880 right there yeah yeah right 3290 02:15:23,270 --> 02:15:22,239 that's what they're going to try that's 3291 02:15:24,870 --> 02:15:23,280 what they're going to try to do i've 3292 02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:24,880 been dealing with these people for 50 3293 02:15:26,790 --> 02:15:25,440 years 3294 02:15:28,629 --> 02:15:26,800 you know they're going to do as little 3295 02:15:31,030 --> 02:15:28,639 as they can possibly get away with 3296 02:15:32,550 --> 02:15:31,040 and so our job is to make sure that they 3297 02:15:35,030 --> 02:15:32,560 can't get away with that 3298 02:15:35,990 --> 02:15:35,040 uh and this it shows like yours and it's 3299 02:15:37,830 --> 02:15:36,000 your consistent 3300 02:15:39,109 --> 02:15:37,840 interviewing of people such as myself 3301 02:15:40,390 --> 02:15:39,119 and lou and others 3302 02:15:42,310 --> 02:15:40,400 you know they're going to keep the 3303 02:15:44,310 --> 02:15:42,320 pressure on them to do this and that's 3304 02:15:48,149 --> 02:15:44,320 the way the democracy works 3305 02:15:48,629 --> 02:15:48,159 now can i ask you about procedure for a 3306 02:15:51,830 --> 02:15:48,639 second 3307 02:15:55,270 --> 02:15:51,840 i i love being able to ask an attorney 3308 02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:55,280 about procedure do they even teach 3309 02:15:59,350 --> 02:15:56,719 procedure in college 3310 02:16:01,589 --> 02:15:59,360 um but anyway they have a whole course 3311 02:16:03,669 --> 02:16:01,599 of civil procedures 3312 02:16:05,270 --> 02:16:03,679 i was my professor at harvard is the one 3313 02:16:06,950 --> 02:16:05,280 that helped draft the uh 3314 02:16:09,030 --> 02:16:06,960 rules of civil procedure for federal 3315 02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:09,040 courts well so 3316 02:16:12,390 --> 02:16:10,880 you're the perfect person to ask this 3317 02:16:15,030 --> 02:16:12,400 question which is 3318 02:16:15,990 --> 02:16:15,040 you know i'll be right there love okay 3319 02:16:18,229 --> 02:16:16,000 that was sarah 3320 02:16:20,790 --> 02:16:18,239 oh okay so i thought it was i thought it 3321 02:16:24,470 --> 02:16:20,800 was the director of central intelligence 3322 02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:24,480 is this what is the procedure with this 3323 02:16:26,709 --> 02:16:25,199 report 3324 02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:26,719 is it something where the senate 3325 02:16:29,669 --> 02:16:28,480 intelligence committee is going to be 3326 02:16:30,629 --> 02:16:29,679 chaired they're going to be sitting 3327 02:16:33,910 --> 02:16:30,639 there 3328 02:16:36,950 --> 02:16:33,920 and the dni or the dod 3329 02:16:39,110 --> 02:16:36,960 or the united states navy or 3330 02:16:40,790 --> 02:16:39,120 they show up with the report and they 3331 02:16:43,990 --> 02:16:40,800 place it on the table 3332 02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:44,000 and then the the the senate 3333 02:16:47,669 --> 02:16:46,800 reviews it and they ask questions is 3334 02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:47,679 there some 3335 02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:50,960 type of public display of 3336 02:16:56,230 --> 02:16:54,240 this changing hands well 3337 02:16:57,990 --> 02:16:56,240 you have to first come to grips with the 3338 02:17:00,309 --> 02:16:58,000 fact that the wording 3339 02:17:02,070 --> 02:17:00,319 that is in the appropriations act right 3340 02:17:05,750 --> 02:17:02,080 does not require them 3341 02:17:08,950 --> 02:17:05,760 to file the report at all it just 3342 02:17:11,270 --> 02:17:08,960 asks them to do that it it has it is not 3343 02:17:12,790 --> 02:17:11,280 mandated that they file any report at 3344 02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:12,800 all it's just a friendly 3345 02:17:16,230 --> 02:17:15,040 request it's just uh it's a friend it's 3346 02:17:17,830 --> 02:17:16,240 a friendly request 3347 02:17:19,589 --> 02:17:17,840 right and so what's what's going to 3348 02:17:21,349 --> 02:17:19,599 happen is the dni 3349 02:17:23,349 --> 02:17:21,359 is going to tell the senate intelligence 3350 02:17:26,549 --> 02:17:23,359 committee that we need more 3351 02:17:27,669 --> 02:17:26,559 time uh this is a complex issue uh it's 3352 02:17:29,270 --> 02:17:27,679 a long history 3353 02:17:31,190 --> 02:17:29,280 it's very complicated we need an 3354 02:17:33,589 --> 02:17:31,200 extension of time and they're gonna 3355 02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:33,599 the in the senate is not going to lean 3356 02:17:37,030 --> 02:17:34,639 on them and say 3357 02:17:38,309 --> 02:17:37,040 okay we'll give you 30 days or we'll 3358 02:17:39,990 --> 02:17:38,319 give you 60 3359 02:17:42,070 --> 02:17:40,000 days you know what they're probably 3360 02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:42,080 going to do is extend it another 180 3361 02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:44,399 days uh because they already gave them 3362 02:17:47,349 --> 02:17:45,599 180 days 3363 02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:47,359 to begin with so it's a number you can 3364 02:17:50,230 --> 02:17:49,120 dance to you know 3365 02:17:52,070 --> 02:17:50,240 and they're going to kick it down the 3366 02:17:52,790 --> 02:17:52,080 road and they're going to hope that the 3367 02:17:55,190 --> 02:17:52,800 media 3368 02:17:56,070 --> 02:17:55,200 fervor over this is going to die down 3369 02:17:57,589 --> 02:17:56,080 that the interview 3370 02:17:59,750 --> 02:17:57,599 shows are going to go on to something 3371 02:18:02,150 --> 02:17:59,760 else you know about the vaccines and 3372 02:18:03,110 --> 02:18:02,160 you know in the in in or the war in the 3373 02:18:04,469 --> 02:18:03,120 middle east or 3374 02:18:07,110 --> 02:18:04,479 they're going to go on to something else 3375 02:18:10,070 --> 02:18:07,120 and the people are going to lose 3376 02:18:11,190 --> 02:18:10,080 you've got to understand the low level 3377 02:18:13,270 --> 02:18:11,200 of esteem 3378 02:18:14,389 --> 02:18:13,280 in which the heads of the national 3379 02:18:17,830 --> 02:18:14,399 security state 3380 02:18:19,190 --> 02:18:17,840 hold the american people uh and their 3381 02:18:21,349 --> 02:18:19,200 their attention levels 3382 02:18:23,669 --> 02:18:21,359 and their desire to get at information 3383 02:18:24,469 --> 02:18:23,679 like this and the fact is that the news 3384 02:18:27,990 --> 02:18:24,479 media 3385 02:18:31,509 --> 02:18:28,000 uh are uh are not as uh aggressive 3386 02:18:32,070 --> 02:18:31,519 as they once were uh uh but but the fact 3387 02:18:34,150 --> 02:18:32,080 of the matter 3388 02:18:35,910 --> 02:18:34,160 is they never were you know but there's 3389 02:18:37,669 --> 02:18:35,920 a lot of great mythologies about the 3390 02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:37,679 investigative reporter community 3391 02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:39,599 and there's still enough young people 3392 02:18:43,509 --> 02:18:41,519 around who believe the myth 3393 02:18:45,429 --> 02:18:43,519 that we may be able to turn this into 3394 02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:45,439 reality you know that there are some 3395 02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:49,200 really investigative reporting going on 3396 02:18:53,429 --> 02:18:51,519 now some of it gets nixed it doesn't go 3397 02:18:56,629 --> 02:18:53,439 into the major news media 3398 02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:56,639 but there's so many programs now around 3399 02:18:59,910 --> 02:18:58,399 that there are so many means of getting 3400 02:19:01,429 --> 02:18:59,920 this information out 3401 02:19:04,070 --> 02:19:01,439 that the the people that were the 3402 02:19:05,589 --> 02:19:04,080 guardians of these security secrets 3403 02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:05,599 you know in the new york times in the 3404 02:19:10,070 --> 02:19:07,120 washington post and 3405 02:19:11,030 --> 02:19:10,080 uh in in washington dc they're losing 3406 02:19:13,190 --> 02:19:11,040 control 3407 02:19:15,030 --> 02:19:13,200 and and that of course is why that is 3408 02:19:17,910 --> 02:19:15,040 why the congress has passed this 3409 02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:17,920 section 230 of the decency act is trying 3410 02:19:21,190 --> 02:19:19,120 to censor 3411 02:19:22,549 --> 02:19:21,200 who can go up on the platforms and 3412 02:19:24,150 --> 02:19:22,559 they're threatening to take they're 3413 02:19:27,429 --> 02:19:24,160 threatening to take away 3414 02:19:29,750 --> 02:19:27,439 the the uh the immunity 3415 02:19:31,349 --> 02:19:29,760 that they've granted to the platforms 3416 02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:31,359 against libel suits 3417 02:19:35,270 --> 02:19:33,439 in exchange for their agreeing to censor 3418 02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:35,280 these things and the people aren't aware 3419 02:19:40,549 --> 02:19:36,240 of this but in 3420 02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:40,559 in section c2 of the of section 230 3421 02:19:43,750 --> 02:19:43,439 of the uh the decency in in broadcasting 3422 02:19:45,509 --> 02:19:43,760 uh 3423 02:19:47,509 --> 02:19:45,519 act you know there's a thing there 3424 02:19:48,469 --> 02:19:47,519 saying that look in exchange for you 3425 02:19:50,950 --> 02:19:48,479 being granted 3426 02:19:51,510 --> 02:19:50,960 uh immunity against being sued by third 3427 02:19:53,270 --> 02:19:51,520 parties 3428 02:19:54,870 --> 02:19:53,280 for what you put up on your platform 3429 02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:54,880 from other people you know 3430 02:19:58,309 --> 02:19:57,760 you're you're going to be uh authorized 3431 02:20:01,349 --> 02:19:58,319 it says 3432 02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:01,359 to censor all the following anything 3433 02:20:05,990 --> 02:20:03,280 about child pornography 3434 02:20:07,990 --> 02:20:06,000 anything that's obscene anything that is 3435 02:20:11,230 --> 02:20:08,000 excessively violent 3436 02:20:14,469 --> 02:20:11,240 anything else that you deem to be 3437 02:20:17,750 --> 02:20:14,479 inappropriate speech and 3438 02:20:20,870 --> 02:20:17,760 fifthly even constitutionally protected 3439 02:20:22,790 --> 02:20:20,880 speech and it says it in the statute 3440 02:20:24,150 --> 02:20:22,800 so that it's perfectly clear that that 3441 02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:24,160 section 230 3442 02:20:27,270 --> 02:20:26,800 is a device that's been created by the 3443 02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:27,280 by 3444 02:20:35,270 --> 02:20:32,080 congress the united states 3445 02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:35,280 to put pressure on facebook in uh in 3446 02:20:39,349 --> 02:20:36,160 these other 3447 02:20:41,270 --> 02:20:39,359 platforms to censor information 3448 02:20:42,630 --> 02:20:41,280 that the the people in charge of the 3449 02:20:44,550 --> 02:20:42,640 government don't want 3450 02:20:46,630 --> 02:20:44,560 broadcast now they used to be able to 3451 02:20:47,990 --> 02:20:46,640 get away with it with cbs and nbc in the 3452 02:20:49,429 --> 02:20:48,000 new york times and all those 3453 02:20:51,349 --> 02:20:49,439 because they all belong to the same 3454 02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:51,359 clubs they all belong to the same men's 3455 02:20:54,309 --> 02:20:52,720 club so they hang out together they all 3456 02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:54,319 went to the same schools they all know 3457 02:20:56,950 --> 02:20:55,040 each other 3458 02:20:58,309 --> 02:20:56,960 you know i was there at the new york 3459 02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:58,319 times i was there for all those 3460 02:21:01,030 --> 02:20:59,280 discussions about 3461 02:21:02,950 --> 02:21:01,040 how much of the pentagon papers are they 3462 02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:02,960 really going to publish right 3463 02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:05,280 so i know what's going on there but 3464 02:21:09,349 --> 02:21:06,960 what's happening now 3465 02:21:09,990 --> 02:21:09,359 is that we have the ability still they 3466 02:21:13,030 --> 02:21:10,000 have not 3467 02:21:14,950 --> 02:21:13,040 slammed down on us uh facebook and and 3468 02:21:17,110 --> 02:21:14,960 instagram and these other people are you 3469 02:21:18,630 --> 02:21:17,120 know throwing robert kennedy jr off you 3470 02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:18,640 know they're throwing other people off 3471 02:21:22,630 --> 02:21:21,359 uh they won't let them talk about 3472 02:21:24,070 --> 02:21:22,640 reasonable questions that have been 3473 02:21:25,590 --> 02:21:24,080 raised about the vaccine 3474 02:21:27,349 --> 02:21:25,600 about reasonable questions they've 3475 02:21:28,870 --> 02:21:27,359 raised about covet 19 3476 02:21:30,550 --> 02:21:28,880 they won't let them talk about that 3477 02:21:33,110 --> 02:21:30,560 because they think it's contrary to 3478 02:21:33,830 --> 02:21:33,120 a national policy of some sort and this 3479 02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:33,840 thing here 3480 02:21:37,990 --> 02:21:36,160 they haven't done that yet with the ufos 3481 02:21:39,990 --> 02:21:38,000 so what we need to do is while we still 3482 02:21:42,630 --> 02:21:40,000 have these channels open we need to go 3483 02:21:43,590 --> 02:21:42,640 to it right away to demand that this 3484 02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:43,600 information about 3485 02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:46,240 the ufos be released that not settle for 3486 02:21:48,150 --> 02:21:47,680 the pablum that they're getting ready to 3487 02:21:51,110 --> 02:21:48,160 give us 3488 02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:51,120 uh in this this pseudo report that 3489 02:21:55,190 --> 02:21:52,640 they're gonna they're gonna hand up 3490 02:21:57,349 --> 02:21:55,200 uh you know and just watch they're going 3491 02:22:00,150 --> 02:21:57,359 to ask for an extension of time 3492 02:22:01,429 --> 02:22:00,160 so you're saying if you're a betting man 3493 02:22:04,070 --> 02:22:01,439 you would say 3494 02:22:06,230 --> 02:22:04,080 that you're suggesting that they're 3495 02:22:09,349 --> 02:22:06,240 going to come in immediately 3496 02:22:12,070 --> 02:22:09,359 not have a report at all and say 3497 02:22:13,190 --> 02:22:12,080 and request and request that they need 3498 02:22:14,790 --> 02:22:13,200 more time 3499 02:22:16,469 --> 02:22:14,800 that's right that's exactly what's going 3500 02:22:18,950 --> 02:22:16,479 to happen 3501 02:22:19,830 --> 02:22:18,960 danny sheehan you're the best my man 3502 02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:19,840 you're the best 3503 02:22:25,429 --> 02:22:23,200 uh i've i just want to thank you 3504 02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:25,439 i want to thank you you have worked 3505 02:22:29,670 --> 02:22:26,560 tirelessly 3506 02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:29,680 uh for america the united states the ufo 3507 02:22:33,670 --> 02:22:30,880 community 3508 02:22:34,790 --> 02:22:33,680 and uh those certainly in a civil 3509 02:22:37,670 --> 02:22:34,800 position 3510 02:22:38,389 --> 02:22:37,680 that need a voice and and need uh 3511 02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:38,399 defending 3512 02:22:43,429 --> 02:22:41,200 thank you so much man i we didn't even 3513 02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:43,439 we didn't even get into 3514 02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:47,040 uh uh the indigenous cultures in this 3515 02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:48,720 country that you have been representing 3516 02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:50,160 for so long 3517 02:22:54,309 --> 02:22:52,560 and and finding that and what we did 3518 02:22:55,510 --> 02:22:54,319 what you did over the last two and a 3519 02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:55,520 half years three 3520 02:22:58,870 --> 02:22:57,520 well it's been longer than that but the 3521 02:23:02,309 --> 02:22:58,880 developments and 3522 02:23:04,230 --> 02:23:02,319 and what you did and you won you won 3523 02:23:06,230 --> 02:23:04,240 yes that's right you won that's right 3524 02:23:07,190 --> 02:23:06,240 thank you so much danny behave and be 3525 02:23:09,270 --> 02:23:07,200 well 3526 02:23:10,870 --> 02:23:09,280 and uh i will go eat some dinner and 3527 02:23:11,590 --> 02:23:10,880 i'll circle back with you in the next 3528 02:23:13,750 --> 02:23:11,600 day or two 3529 02:23:15,190 --> 02:23:13,760 all right you're the best thank you 3530 02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:15,200 jimmy you got it 3531 02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:18,399 thank you so much my friend danny yeah 3532 02:23:23,190 --> 02:23:19,120 good night 3533 02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:23,200 need to take a quick break right here 3534 02:23:27,750 --> 02:23:24,960 this is fade to black 3535 02:23:29,309 --> 02:23:27,760 daniel p sheehan his website his links 3536 02:23:30,630 --> 02:23:29,319 everything is over at 3537 02:23:32,150 --> 02:23:30,640 jimmychurchradio.com 3538 02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:32,160 i'm going to take a quick break and i'll 3539 02:23:35,270 --> 02:23:33,680 swing back to your phone calls 3540 02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:35,280 this is fade to black i'm real jimmy 3541 02:23:58,870 --> 02:23:46,000 church stay with me 3542 02:24:01,270 --> 02:23:58,880 [Music] 3543 02:24:03,190 --> 02:24:01,280 hey what up y'all biblical fox here and 3544 02:24:08,389 --> 02:24:03,200 you are listening to my boy 3545 02:24:19,429 --> 02:24:11,670 despite popular opinion reading a book 3546 02:24:22,870 --> 02:24:21,670 this is jimmy church and i'll be at the 3547 02:24:25,990 --> 02:24:22,880 ufo megacon 3548 02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:26,000 this june 6th through the 12th 2021 3549 02:24:29,429 --> 02:24:28,640 in 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sheehan unbelievable 3643 02:28:51,590 --> 02:28:49,359 conversation tonight now i hope we put a 3644 02:28:53,590 --> 02:28:51,600 lot of those rumors to bed a lot of the 3645 02:28:55,270 --> 02:28:53,600 the stuff that was discussed over the 3646 02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:55,280 last couple of weeks in uh 3647 02:28:58,950 --> 02:28:58,399 last week in social media uh i addressed 3648 02:29:02,790 --> 02:28:58,960 uh 3649 02:29:05,510 --> 02:29:02,800 could with daniel 3650 02:29:06,870 --> 02:29:05,520 uh very very very interesting and what a 3651 02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:06,880 great 3652 02:29:12,230 --> 02:29:09,920 show with the year just might 3653 02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,240 be all right seven four seven two two 3654 02:29:15,590 --> 02:29:14,319 eight two zero five one i've already got 3655 02:29:18,630 --> 02:29:15,600 a bunch of calls on hold 3656 02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:18,640 and i want to get straight to him 3657 02:29:24,870 --> 02:29:22,319 let's uh let's see who is up first right 3658 02:29:25,510 --> 02:29:24,880 oh wait a minute that was me that's my 3659 02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:25,520 fault 3660 02:29:29,750 --> 02:29:27,680 i gotta stop doing that man i gotta stop 3661 02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:29,760 doing that because somebody right now is 3662 02:29:33,590 --> 02:29:30,319 on hold 3663 02:29:35,910 --> 02:29:33,600 listening to the show in 3664 02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:35,920 double ah that just sucks hi you're live 3665 02:29:40,230 --> 02:29:38,080 on fade to black who's calling 3666 02:29:41,830 --> 02:29:40,240 oh you gotta turn me down turn me down 3667 02:29:45,190 --> 02:29:41,840 in the background 3668 02:29:48,309 --> 02:29:45,200 all right hello all right who's this 3669 02:29:52,070 --> 02:29:48,319 this is allison jimmy how are you alison 3670 02:29:55,670 --> 02:29:52,080 out of indy nap town you betcha 3671 02:29:56,309 --> 02:29:55,680 how are you allison i am absolutely 3672 02:30:00,630 --> 02:29:56,319 excellent 3673 02:30:04,070 --> 02:30:02,550 absolutely one of the best shows i think 3674 02:30:10,230 --> 02:30:04,080 i've heard especially at this 3675 02:30:14,309 --> 02:30:12,950 i want to thank danny sheehan for his 3676 02:30:17,750 --> 02:30:14,319 honesty 3677 02:30:21,270 --> 02:30:17,760 for all of the work that he's putting in 3678 02:30:24,309 --> 02:30:21,280 to get information out 3679 02:30:28,469 --> 02:30:24,319 that belongs to us 3680 02:30:31,670 --> 02:30:28,479 in a manner that can't be taken from us 3681 02:30:34,389 --> 02:30:31,680 and for standing by 3682 02:30:36,309 --> 02:30:34,399 the people that have done some really 3683 02:30:40,230 --> 02:30:36,319 tough work on this 3684 02:30:43,750 --> 02:30:40,240 um i i 3685 02:30:46,150 --> 02:30:43,760 from all the years 3686 02:30:47,910 --> 02:30:46,160 i understand that danny knows a lot from 3687 02:30:52,550 --> 02:30:47,920 all of his connections 3688 02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:52,560 i understand that danny knows a lot and 3689 02:30:59,429 --> 02:30:55,600 he is really 3690 02:31:03,349 --> 02:30:59,439 doing a very tough job right now 3691 02:31:06,630 --> 02:31:03,359 trying to get the actual truth out 3692 02:31:09,030 --> 02:31:06,640 and tonight's program was just 3693 02:31:10,710 --> 02:31:09,040 superlative yeah i want to thank you for 3694 02:31:14,630 --> 02:31:10,720 it yeah allison you're right 3695 02:31:16,150 --> 02:31:14,640 and if anybody uh if there's a lot of 3696 02:31:18,150 --> 02:31:16,160 attorneys out there 3697 02:31:20,710 --> 02:31:18,160 but if anybody knows how to navigate 3698 02:31:22,469 --> 02:31:20,720 washington and the bureaucracy 3699 02:31:23,750 --> 02:31:22,479 and what you've got to go through to get 3700 02:31:27,110 --> 02:31:23,760 stuff done and 3701 02:31:30,230 --> 02:31:27,120 it's danny sheehan i mean they're 3702 02:31:33,110 --> 02:31:30,240 as far as pedigree goes and and 3703 02:31:34,870 --> 02:31:33,120 being able to oh my god it's it's it's 3704 02:31:35,990 --> 02:31:34,880 danny sheen there isn't any question 3705 02:31:40,150 --> 02:31:36,000 about that 3706 02:31:44,469 --> 02:31:40,160 um and lou elizondo 3707 02:31:46,870 --> 02:31:44,479 um uh reaching out uh to danny 3708 02:31:48,070 --> 02:31:46,880 that he's it's not only the right thing 3709 02:31:51,190 --> 02:31:48,080 to do 3710 02:31:52,630 --> 02:31:51,200 but there isn't uh uh 3711 02:31:54,389 --> 02:31:52,640 you have to have somebody that 3712 02:31:57,510 --> 02:31:54,399 understands the ufo et 3713 02:31:59,429 --> 02:31:57,520 issues which danny fully does and then 3714 02:32:01,510 --> 02:31:59,439 you have to combine that with 3715 02:32:02,870 --> 02:32:01,520 somebody that knows about capitol hill 3716 02:32:05,590 --> 02:32:02,880 somebody knows 3717 02:32:07,910 --> 02:32:05,600 the justice system the supreme court the 3718 02:32:10,230 --> 02:32:07,920 white house the oval office right the 3719 02:32:13,349 --> 02:32:10,240 department of defense the joint chiefs 3720 02:32:13,750 --> 02:32:13,359 you need somebody that understands all 3721 02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:13,760 of that 3722 02:32:17,270 --> 02:32:16,000 and that has done it before yeah what 3723 02:32:20,389 --> 02:32:17,280 kind of list of 3724 02:32:23,349 --> 02:32:20,399 attorneys that you know uh 3725 02:32:23,990 --> 02:32:23,359 there's only one that i know of there's 3726 02:32:27,510 --> 02:32:24,000 only one 3727 02:32:30,870 --> 02:32:27,520 that's right that's exactly right yes 3728 02:32:34,630 --> 02:32:30,880 and you know i am 3729 02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:34,640 and this is my opinion but i have 3730 02:32:39,190 --> 02:32:38,160 i'm of the opinion that danny knows a 3731 02:32:43,110 --> 02:32:39,200 hell of a lot 3732 02:32:44,309 --> 02:32:43,120 that he can't even begin to elucidate to 3733 02:32:48,389 --> 02:32:44,319 us 3734 02:32:51,990 --> 02:32:48,399 and he is in that 3735 02:32:55,590 --> 02:32:52,000 effort trying to help the people that 3736 02:32:59,349 --> 02:32:55,600 can actually begin to open 3737 02:33:02,070 --> 02:32:59,359 that dialogue um 3738 02:33:04,870 --> 02:33:02,080 well and he knows but he obviously this 3739 02:33:07,429 --> 02:33:04,880 is the thing you're right about that 3740 02:33:08,389 --> 02:33:07,439 of of knowing where to go and who to go 3741 02:33:17,910 --> 02:33:08,399 to 3742 02:33:20,870 --> 02:33:17,920 conversation going 3743 02:33:23,429 --> 02:33:20,880 right and exactly and and this is going 3744 02:33:26,309 --> 02:33:23,439 to blow people's minds 3745 02:33:28,150 --> 02:33:26,319 when the fullness of the information 3746 02:33:32,230 --> 02:33:28,160 comes out 3747 02:33:36,150 --> 02:33:32,240 um and all of these people are 3748 02:33:37,990 --> 02:33:36,160 wrapped up in ropes and and and uh 3749 02:33:40,150 --> 02:33:38,000 what do you call it when you put 3750 02:33:43,349 --> 02:33:40,160 something around somebody's mouth 3751 02:33:46,550 --> 02:33:43,359 i can't think of damn it muzzle 3752 02:33:48,469 --> 02:33:46,560 muzzle yes muzzle thank you very much 3753 02:33:51,030 --> 02:33:48,479 that's the what i'm looking for 3754 02:33:53,270 --> 02:33:51,040 there are so many people out there with 3755 02:33:54,230 --> 02:33:53,280 the fullness of the information that we 3756 02:33:56,710 --> 02:33:54,240 need to know 3757 02:33:57,510 --> 02:33:56,720 that can't even begin to speak what they 3758 02:34:00,389 --> 02:33:57,520 know 3759 02:34:01,510 --> 02:34:00,399 and danny is making it possible for the 3760 02:34:05,030 --> 02:34:01,520 first 3761 02:34:06,070 --> 02:34:05,040 steps of this information the correct 3762 02:34:09,349 --> 02:34:06,080 information 3763 02:34:12,469 --> 02:34:09,359 to come out and i 3764 02:34:15,830 --> 02:34:12,479 he's such a stand-up guy for doing this 3765 02:34:17,270 --> 02:34:15,840 i and and and he's one of the only 3766 02:34:20,950 --> 02:34:17,280 people that i believe 3767 02:34:25,030 --> 02:34:20,960 that has the hutzpah and 3768 02:34:27,190 --> 02:34:25,040 the the knowledge and the courage 3769 02:34:28,469 --> 02:34:27,200 to help people to bring this forward and 3770 02:34:31,750 --> 02:34:28,479 it's got 3771 02:34:34,469 --> 02:34:31,760 to come out it absolutely 3772 02:34:34,950 --> 02:34:34,479 has to come out to me now what did you 3773 02:34:38,630 --> 02:34:34,960 when i 3774 02:34:40,550 --> 02:34:38,640 started to ask him about procedure and 3775 02:34:41,830 --> 02:34:40,560 you know what's going to happen you know 3776 02:34:43,030 --> 02:34:41,840 on the 24th 3777 02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:43,040 are they going to show up with the 3778 02:34:47,750 --> 02:34:46,240 report and sorry yeah and he said 3779 02:34:49,270 --> 02:34:47,760 they're not it's not even going to go 3780 02:34:51,270 --> 02:34:49,280 that far they're just going to ask for 3781 02:34:54,469 --> 02:34:51,280 more time 3782 02:34:55,510 --> 02:34:54,479 so totally so [\h__\h] totally whoa whoa 3783 02:34:59,190 --> 02:34:55,520 whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa 3784 02:35:02,309 --> 02:34:59,200 don't drop anybody 3785 02:35:04,710 --> 02:35:02,319 well okay i already admitted on twitter 3786 02:35:05,590 --> 02:35:04,720 that i've had too much scotch so i will 3787 02:35:07,270 --> 02:35:05,600 yeah 3788 02:35:09,190 --> 02:35:07,280 i will try very hard not to have that 3789 02:35:12,230 --> 02:35:09,200 come out of my mouth again but he is 3790 02:35:15,830 --> 02:35:12,240 absolutely right absolutely 3791 02:35:18,309 --> 02:35:15,840 totally right this in my opinion 3792 02:35:19,830 --> 02:35:18,319 because i've seen this in 20-year cycles 3793 02:35:22,070 --> 02:35:19,840 they dangle the carrot out 3794 02:35:22,870 --> 02:35:22,080 get everybody all excited and 3795 02:35:25,349 --> 02:35:22,880 everybody's like 3796 02:35:26,070 --> 02:35:25,359 it's gonna break any minute and then 3797 02:35:28,950 --> 02:35:26,080 they pull the 3798 02:35:29,830 --> 02:35:28,960 rug out from every out from underneath 3799 02:35:32,950 --> 02:35:29,840 everybody 3800 02:35:36,630 --> 02:35:32,960 and it goes nowhere and i am 3801 02:35:39,910 --> 02:35:36,640 fully expecting them to do this to us 3802 02:35:41,429 --> 02:35:39,920 once again i i do you know how many 3803 02:35:44,309 --> 02:35:41,439 sorry 3804 02:35:46,469 --> 02:35:44,319 this is this is and people need to 3805 02:35:50,230 --> 02:35:46,479 listen to what i'm about to say 3806 02:35:53,110 --> 02:35:50,240 do you know how many uh twitter accounts 3807 02:35:53,990 --> 02:35:53,120 are uap disclosure you know that's the 3808 02:35:56,070 --> 02:35:54,000 name of the account 3809 02:35:57,670 --> 02:35:56,080 something like that whatever facebook 3810 02:36:01,030 --> 02:35:57,680 groups facebook they the 3811 02:36:01,670 --> 02:36:01,040 you know this whole uh uap disclosure 3812 02:36:03,190 --> 02:36:01,680 now 3813 02:36:05,030 --> 02:36:03,200 i hope there isn't somebody with that 3814 02:36:06,230 --> 02:36:05,040 actual name but you guys understand what 3815 02:36:10,630 --> 02:36:06,240 i'm saying 3816 02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:10,640 and that are absolutely 3817 02:36:15,670 --> 02:36:13,760 focused on the uap task force and the 3818 02:36:18,870 --> 02:36:15,680 disclosure that is going to happen and 3819 02:36:21,510 --> 02:36:18,880 how great june is going to be and 3820 02:36:23,030 --> 02:36:21,520 you need to prepare yourself you need to 3821 02:36:26,710 --> 02:36:23,040 you really need to be 3822 02:36:29,270 --> 02:36:26,720 prepared for the exact opposite 3823 02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:29,280 right and i i don't i don't think that 3824 02:36:31,349 --> 02:36:29,840 they are 3825 02:36:32,870 --> 02:36:31,359 they haven't they have been down this 3826 02:36:35,750 --> 02:36:32,880 road 3827 02:36:36,469 --> 02:36:35,760 okay if you listen to grier if you 3828 02:36:39,670 --> 02:36:36,479 listen to 3829 02:36:42,150 --> 02:36:39,680 richard dolan you gotta know 3830 02:36:43,110 --> 02:36:42,160 that if they let any of this information 3831 02:36:46,469 --> 02:36:43,120 out 3832 02:36:48,389 --> 02:36:46,479 it's gonna crash a whole number of 3833 02:36:52,710 --> 02:36:48,399 systems 3834 02:36:56,389 --> 02:36:52,720 that are stable in the world like 3835 02:36:58,710 --> 02:36:56,399 oil like energy like 3836 02:37:01,110 --> 02:36:58,720 big pharma like oh and he made such a 3837 02:37:05,110 --> 02:37:01,120 great point about what 3838 02:37:08,550 --> 02:37:05,120 okay i'm not going there the um 3839 02:37:09,830 --> 02:37:08,560 well okay tv thing yes yes yes yes yes 3840 02:37:11,670 --> 02:37:09,840 yes 3841 02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:11,680 but there's a there's another part to 3842 02:37:15,190 --> 02:37:13,680 this allison and i've got to get to some 3843 02:37:16,630 --> 02:37:15,200 other phone calls but there's another 3844 02:37:20,710 --> 02:37:16,640 part to this 3845 02:37:24,469 --> 02:37:20,720 um which is i 3846 02:37:26,630 --> 02:37:24,479 my vision is uh 3847 02:37:28,550 --> 02:37:26,640 the director of national intelligence or 3848 02:37:30,309 --> 02:37:28,560 the uap task force the united states 3849 02:37:33,990 --> 02:37:30,319 navy going well you know 3850 02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:34,000 it's not china it's it's it's it's not 3851 02:37:40,150 --> 02:37:37,520 russian it's not us and then 3852 02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:40,160 you know one of the members of the 3853 02:37:44,150 --> 02:37:42,160 senate intelligence committee 3854 02:37:45,270 --> 02:37:44,160 would come back with well if it's not 3855 02:37:49,270 --> 02:37:45,280 that what 3856 02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:49,280 is it ufos is it extraterrestrial 3857 02:37:55,429 --> 02:37:52,399 intelligence not you know that and 3858 02:37:57,110 --> 02:37:55,439 and they would have to respond to that 3859 02:37:59,590 --> 02:37:57,120 because if it's not that 3860 02:38:02,309 --> 02:37:59,600 then what else could it be instead of 3861 02:38:05,349 --> 02:38:02,319 constantly asking that stupid question 3862 02:38:08,389 --> 02:38:05,359 well we don't know what it is well okay 3863 02:38:11,110 --> 02:38:08,399 get to the point right 3864 02:38:13,349 --> 02:38:11,120 get to the point like on 60 minutes 60 3865 02:38:16,550 --> 02:38:13,359 minutes danced on the issue 3866 02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:16,560 right if it's not china if it's not 3867 02:38:23,510 --> 02:38:19,920 russia and it's not us then it's them 3868 02:38:25,349 --> 02:38:23,520 it's ufos it's a it's an alien species 3869 02:38:29,429 --> 02:38:25,359 but nobody wants to cross 3870 02:38:33,510 --> 02:38:29,439 that line they're going to 3871 02:38:34,070 --> 02:38:33,520 they're going to use that for the threat 3872 02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:34,080 reason 3873 02:38:37,670 --> 02:38:36,080 and they're going to get lots of money 3874 02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:37,680 out of that and if you think they're 3875 02:38:42,630 --> 02:38:38,640 going to give it up 3876 02:38:45,670 --> 02:38:42,640 before they get all the very last cent 3877 02:38:48,950 --> 02:38:45,680 that they could ring out of 3878 02:38:53,429 --> 02:38:48,960 whomever for that you're mistaken 3879 02:38:55,750 --> 02:38:53,439 so they're going to say well okay 3880 02:38:57,429 --> 02:38:55,760 it might not be from earth therefore it 3881 02:38:59,670 --> 02:38:57,439 is a threat so therefore 3882 02:39:01,750 --> 02:38:59,680 we really need all this money because we 3883 02:39:04,790 --> 02:39:01,760 have to develop 3884 02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:04,800 whatever to protect us from this that we 3885 02:39:08,389 --> 02:39:05,600 are not 3886 02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:08,399 going to get the straight story for as 3887 02:39:13,110 --> 02:39:09,520 long as they can 3888 02:39:16,630 --> 02:39:13,120 ring the last [\h__\h] the last 3889 02:39:18,630 --> 02:39:16,640 um you know what yeah yeah yeah yeah i 3890 02:39:19,990 --> 02:39:18,640 i agree with you okay i just got back 3891 02:39:22,630 --> 02:39:20,000 from indy 3892 02:39:24,950 --> 02:39:22,640 um i got i went to waffle house let's 3893 02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:24,960 just get that out in the open 3894 02:39:28,870 --> 02:39:27,280 um i went to waffle house i didn't go to 3895 02:39:30,309 --> 02:39:28,880 steak and shake but we have steak and 3896 02:39:33,270 --> 02:39:30,319 shakes out here now but 3897 02:39:34,950 --> 02:39:33,280 i drove by so many i i can't believe i 3898 02:39:37,990 --> 02:39:34,960 didn't get chili three ways 3899 02:39:38,309 --> 02:39:38,000 but anyway i went to waffle house i went 3900 02:39:40,870 --> 02:39:38,319 to 3901 02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:40,880 uh a wonderful restaurant on the west 3902 02:39:45,349 --> 02:39:41,760 side 3903 02:39:47,830 --> 02:39:45,359 a breakfast place called oasis holy crap 3904 02:39:49,429 --> 02:39:47,840 oh yeah have you been there oh yeah have 3905 02:39:53,190 --> 02:39:49,439 you been yeah 3906 02:39:54,230 --> 02:39:53,200 what an amazing breakfast place and 3907 02:39:57,349 --> 02:39:54,240 they're all i think they're only a 3908 02:39:59,429 --> 02:39:57,359 little bit for breakfast right 3909 02:40:00,710 --> 02:39:59,439 yep and there's another place over here 3910 02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:00,720 in noblesville 3911 02:40:06,309 --> 02:40:04,000 that's called gingers that you 3912 02:40:08,550 --> 02:40:06,319 actually will need to be you know you'll 3913 02:40:09,670 --> 02:40:08,560 need a a pallet truck to be wheeled out 3914 02:40:11,670 --> 02:40:09,680 oh man 3915 02:40:13,670 --> 02:40:11,680 and there was a uh there was a place 3916 02:40:15,190 --> 02:40:13,680 across the street from the oasis 3917 02:40:18,389 --> 02:40:15,200 i just happened to look it was called 3918 02:40:22,230 --> 02:40:18,399 flapjacks and i'm like ah 3919 02:40:25,030 --> 02:40:22,240 going there tomorrow so you know 3920 02:40:27,429 --> 02:40:25,040 he does good breakfast oh of course they 3921 02:40:29,670 --> 02:40:27,439 do janna does good breakfast 3922 02:40:31,110 --> 02:40:29,680 it was uh it was so great getting uh 3923 02:40:33,269 --> 02:40:31,120 back to indy and 3924 02:40:34,150 --> 02:40:33,279 and i got up to fishers i went up to 3925 02:40:35,910 --> 02:40:34,160 geist and 3926 02:40:38,230 --> 02:40:35,920 and and hung out with my friends up 3927 02:40:39,110 --> 02:40:38,240 there and and we ate at this italian 3928 02:40:43,110 --> 02:40:39,120 restaurant up there 3929 02:40:43,990 --> 02:40:43,120 pizza something um on 96th and it was it 3930 02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:44,000 was just incredible 3931 02:40:49,349 --> 02:40:46,720 anyway it was just awesome uh to get 3932 02:40:50,710 --> 02:40:49,359 back to indy on time trials weekend by 3933 02:40:53,030 --> 02:40:50,720 the way so 3934 02:40:54,550 --> 02:40:53,040 uh yeah yeah i watched the time trials 3935 02:40:57,269 --> 02:40:54,560 on tv it was just 3936 02:40:59,990 --> 02:40:57,279 it was uh it was it was pretty cool to 3937 02:41:02,550 --> 02:41:00,000 just get back to indy and and feel 3938 02:41:04,309 --> 02:41:02,560 feel the vibe of of that great city 3939 02:41:06,790 --> 02:41:04,319 thank you so much allison 3940 02:41:08,870 --> 02:41:06,800 behave and be well and i'm sorry i'm i'm 3941 02:41:12,070 --> 02:41:08,880 sorry i'm such a downer on this 3942 02:41:13,830 --> 02:41:12,080 but let me tell you since the 60s this 3943 02:41:15,910 --> 02:41:13,840 20-year cycle 3944 02:41:17,269 --> 02:41:15,920 it's like oh you're gonna do it again 3945 02:41:19,910 --> 02:41:17,279 aren't you yeah i know i know 3946 02:41:20,309 --> 02:41:19,920 i know i know i know and look we're 3947 02:41:25,590 --> 02:41:20,319 we're 3948 02:41:29,429 --> 02:41:25,600 from june 3949 02:41:30,550 --> 02:41:29,439 and uh we're a week away from the 500 by 3950 02:41:32,150 --> 02:41:30,560 the way 3951 02:41:33,990 --> 02:41:32,160 we're a week away from june and we're 3952 02:41:36,790 --> 02:41:34,000 going to see we're going to see 3953 02:41:37,590 --> 02:41:36,800 ultimately what this uap task force is 3954 02:41:40,630 --> 02:41:37,600 all about 3955 02:41:43,269 --> 02:41:40,640 it's put up or shut up and um 3956 02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:43,279 i'm lucky yeah but i you know what 3957 02:41:47,429 --> 02:41:44,960 everybody out there 3958 02:41:48,950 --> 02:41:47,439 just like like cool your jets that's 3959 02:41:52,070 --> 02:41:48,960 just that's all you got to do i 3960 02:41:54,790 --> 02:41:52,080 i protect my emotions man i protect them 3961 02:41:56,469 --> 02:41:54,800 allison behave and be well give uh give 3962 02:41:57,190 --> 02:41:56,479 my best to your better half i'll talk to 3963 02:42:00,469 --> 02:41:57,200 you 3964 02:42:03,670 --> 02:42:00,479 hey give a hug to rita right on 3965 02:42:07,269 --> 02:42:03,680 it's time to fade to black allison from 3966 02:42:10,710 --> 02:42:07,279 from nap town and uh it was so great 3967 02:42:13,990 --> 02:42:10,720 uh going back to indy and and uh 3968 02:42:16,389 --> 02:42:14,000 and driving up washington boulevard and 3969 02:42:17,349 --> 02:42:16,399 and just being there it was uh it was 3970 02:42:20,710 --> 02:42:17,359 wonderful yes 3971 02:42:23,349 --> 02:42:20,720 everybody i went to waffle house 3972 02:42:24,710 --> 02:42:23,359 and i didn't play around i did not play 3973 02:42:26,070 --> 02:42:24,720 around with waffle house just let me 3974 02:42:27,190 --> 02:42:26,080 tell you that right now all right let's 3975 02:42:29,590 --> 02:42:27,200 go back to the phones how you're live 3976 02:42:31,990 --> 02:42:29,600 i'm faded black who's calling 3977 02:42:33,750 --> 02:42:32,000 hey jimmy welcome home it's deb hey deb 3978 02:42:35,830 --> 02:42:33,760 how are you doing 3979 02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:35,840 good how um how what did you have at 3980 02:42:40,630 --> 02:42:36,960 waffle house 3981 02:42:43,510 --> 02:42:40,640 uh you want the full list i had 3982 02:42:44,790 --> 02:42:43,520 i had no i'm not kidding about this okay 3983 02:42:55,030 --> 02:42:44,800 i had 3984 02:42:59,590 --> 02:42:55,040 a pecan waffle and i 3985 02:43:02,630 --> 02:42:59,600 had biscuits and sausage gravy 3986 02:43:03,910 --> 02:43:02,640 oh yeah i had four plates i had four 3987 02:43:06,230 --> 02:43:03,920 plates in front of me 3988 02:43:06,950 --> 02:43:06,240 uh going across and i ate something off 3989 02:43:09,990 --> 02:43:06,960 of all of them 3990 02:43:13,950 --> 02:43:10,000 i knocked the whole uh omelette out 3991 02:43:16,309 --> 02:43:13,960 i ate half of that pecan waffle was 3992 02:43:19,510 --> 02:43:16,319 insanely great 3993 02:43:20,630 --> 02:43:19,520 and uh i i ate half of that i half of 3994 02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:20,640 the biscuits and grape 3995 02:43:27,190 --> 02:43:23,680 yeah it was on i didn't play oh oh oh 3996 02:43:30,870 --> 02:43:27,200 and i got uh uh i got 3997 02:43:36,230 --> 02:43:30,880 a a fried biscuit on the side 3998 02:43:39,190 --> 02:43:36,240 that i had a butter and jelly on so yeah 3999 02:43:41,030 --> 02:43:39,200 man it was it was it was just it was 4000 02:43:43,750 --> 02:43:41,040 just it was just so awesome 4001 02:43:44,710 --> 02:43:43,760 it was just so awesome so i went with my 4002 02:43:47,990 --> 02:43:44,720 brother and 4003 02:43:50,870 --> 02:43:48,000 and his wife and and uh yeah we 4004 02:43:52,630 --> 02:43:50,880 we plowed through it i i was in such a 4005 02:43:56,309 --> 02:43:52,640 good mood it was so funny 4006 02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:56,319 um um i'm not paying the bill 4007 02:44:01,269 --> 02:43:59,040 right and uh and the lady at the cash 4008 02:44:02,870 --> 02:44:01,279 register said so who's my server and she 4009 02:44:05,269 --> 02:44:02,880 goes her name's nikki 4010 02:44:08,150 --> 02:44:05,279 i said how much should i tip nikki she 4011 02:44:11,349 --> 02:44:08,160 goes a hundred percent 4012 02:44:14,150 --> 02:44:11,359 i said all right 100 and you did 4013 02:44:14,870 --> 02:44:14,160 i did i did man i doubled that sucker 4014 02:44:17,990 --> 02:44:14,880 right there 4015 02:44:21,190 --> 02:44:18,000 signed it and and and felt felt 4016 02:44:23,269 --> 02:44:21,200 great about doing it too okay real quick 4017 02:44:26,230 --> 02:44:23,279 what's on your mind 4018 02:44:27,429 --> 02:44:26,240 okay not to repeat everything um that 4019 02:44:30,150 --> 02:44:27,439 allison just said 4020 02:44:30,870 --> 02:44:30,160 spot on i agree with her 100 and with a 4021 02:44:33,030 --> 02:44:30,880 lot of what 4022 02:44:34,150 --> 02:44:33,040 well most of it i miss some of what 4023 02:44:35,910 --> 02:44:34,160 danny said because 4024 02:44:37,670 --> 02:44:35,920 youtube kept buffering out so we missed 4025 02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:37,680 some of that but 4026 02:44:42,710 --> 02:44:40,000 yeah i totally agree with both of them 4027 02:44:45,110 --> 02:44:42,720 um i think the best that we can hope for 4028 02:44:46,710 --> 02:44:45,120 out of this whole thing is if they do 4029 02:44:48,630 --> 02:44:46,720 ask for more money and they 4030 02:44:50,389 --> 02:44:48,640 i agree with her they will let's hope 4031 02:44:52,469 --> 02:44:50,399 that they put it towards the space force 4032 02:44:54,710 --> 02:44:52,479 to advance us more to at least get into 4033 02:44:57,670 --> 02:44:54,720 space and protect ourselves more 4034 02:44:59,110 --> 02:44:57,680 and can you recall and i have a theory 4035 02:45:00,469 --> 02:44:59,120 about what all this is about it's a 4036 02:45:02,630 --> 02:45:00,479 distraction 4037 02:45:04,630 --> 02:45:02,640 a couple years ago what were we all 4038 02:45:05,990 --> 02:45:04,640 talking about that we never talk about 4039 02:45:07,750 --> 02:45:06,000 anymore what was the big 4040 02:45:09,510 --> 02:45:07,760 thing that everyone was talking about at 4041 02:45:11,190 --> 02:45:09,520 conferences and it starts with an a 4042 02:45:15,750 --> 02:45:11,200 jimmy 4043 02:45:19,190 --> 02:45:15,760 i have no idea antarctica 4044 02:45:22,070 --> 02:45:19,200 so there are over 100 volcanoes 4045 02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:22,080 under the ocean in antarctica 4046 02:45:26,150 --> 02:45:24,000 fortunately for us they're not all going 4047 02:45:28,070 --> 02:45:26,160 off at once they go off one at a time 4048 02:45:30,550 --> 02:45:28,080 gradually over time and that is 4049 02:45:32,309 --> 02:45:30,560 melting the ice shelf over there so 4050 02:45:33,349 --> 02:45:32,319 eventually as these ice shelves are 4051 02:45:36,389 --> 02:45:33,359 melting and stuff 4052 02:45:37,990 --> 02:45:36,399 is getting exposed more and more we will 4053 02:45:40,309 --> 02:45:38,000 be seeing things eventually 4054 02:45:42,070 --> 02:45:40,319 and i think it's a distraction from that 4055 02:45:45,110 --> 02:45:42,080 and i also believe that 4056 02:45:47,510 --> 02:45:45,120 um as things are finally 4057 02:45:50,389 --> 02:45:47,520 um rolled out and shown what's happening 4058 02:45:52,630 --> 02:45:50,399 over there and what people are spotting 4059 02:45:54,230 --> 02:45:52,640 i do think dr greer you know i believe 4060 02:45:56,870 --> 02:45:54,240 in east and um 4061 02:45:59,190 --> 02:45:56,880 vectoring them in they want to contact 4062 02:46:01,110 --> 02:45:59,200 us they want communication with us 4063 02:46:03,190 --> 02:46:01,120 they don't want to deal with our 4064 02:46:05,590 --> 02:46:03,200 government they want to contact 4065 02:46:07,269 --> 02:46:05,600 the people and we need to just like 4066 02:46:10,950 --> 02:46:07,279 we're all doing watching 4067 02:46:12,790 --> 02:46:10,960 waiting and um you know however you 4068 02:46:14,550 --> 02:46:12,800 communicate with them i have my own way 4069 02:46:19,190 --> 02:46:14,560 of communicating with them 4070 02:46:21,190 --> 02:46:19,200 you you just need to um be diligent 4071 02:46:22,630 --> 02:46:21,200 and you may be right you may be right 4072 02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:22,640 we're gonna see we've got about two 4073 02:46:25,750 --> 02:46:24,080 weeks left here deb 4074 02:46:27,750 --> 02:46:25,760 thank you so much i'll see you tomorrow 4075 02:46:29,830 --> 02:46:27,760 night on the show 4076 02:46:30,950 --> 02:46:29,840 absolutely welcome home thank you so 4077 02:46:34,309 --> 02:46:30,960 much dad 4078 02:46:38,630 --> 02:46:34,319 fade to black and uh yeah 4079 02:46:41,670 --> 02:46:38,640 i mean there uh and 4080 02:46:42,550 --> 02:46:41,680 deb is right well so is allison so is 4081 02:46:45,429 --> 02:46:42,560 danny 4082 02:46:46,710 --> 02:46:45,439 but so if you think about this if you go 4083 02:46:49,990 --> 02:46:46,720 down the list 4084 02:46:51,830 --> 02:46:50,000 i have no i have no issues with 4085 02:46:54,389 --> 02:46:51,840 dr greer's point of view i have no 4086 02:46:55,670 --> 02:46:54,399 issues with with dolan or linda moulton 4087 02:46:59,429 --> 02:46:55,680 howard nick pope 4088 02:47:02,630 --> 02:46:59,439 for that matter and and and others but 4089 02:47:04,150 --> 02:47:02,640 we have to listen to everybody we have 4090 02:47:06,150 --> 02:47:04,160 to listen to everybody and 4091 02:47:07,990 --> 02:47:06,160 one of the things you know and and you 4092 02:47:11,349 --> 02:47:08,000 know lou elizondo 4093 02:47:13,030 --> 02:47:11,359 where uh uh danny sheehan brings up a 4094 02:47:16,230 --> 02:47:13,040 great point tonight 4095 02:47:19,990 --> 02:47:16,240 that dr greer 4096 02:47:23,510 --> 02:47:20,000 has been very vocal and and speaks 4097 02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:23,520 as a matter of fact which he can't do 4098 02:47:27,990 --> 02:47:25,520 but he presents it that way 4099 02:47:29,990 --> 02:47:28,000 that's his style that's what he does and 4100 02:47:32,389 --> 02:47:30,000 he would rather be 4101 02:47:34,469 --> 02:47:32,399 wrong than not say anything at all 4102 02:47:37,990 --> 02:47:34,479 that's a very interesting point 4103 02:47:40,389 --> 02:47:38,000 but back to what we need to listen to 4104 02:47:41,110 --> 02:47:40,399 everything all the time there are some 4105 02:47:44,710 --> 02:47:41,120 points that 4106 02:47:47,590 --> 02:47:44,720 dr greer has made lately that i'm 4107 02:47:48,790 --> 02:47:47,600 very curious about i'm very curious i 4108 02:47:51,590 --> 02:47:48,800 mean could this be 4109 02:47:53,030 --> 02:47:51,600 i mean the the the infamous you know uh 4110 02:47:55,590 --> 02:47:53,040 project bluebeam the 4111 02:47:56,630 --> 02:47:55,600 the fake alien invasion well this is 4112 02:47:59,670 --> 02:47:56,640 something that uh 4113 02:48:03,670 --> 02:47:59,680 ronald reagan spoke very directly about 4114 02:48:07,349 --> 02:48:03,680 and not one not two but nine separate 4115 02:48:09,510 --> 02:48:07,359 speeches you know this was his message 4116 02:48:11,349 --> 02:48:09,520 so could it be i don't know i don't know 4117 02:48:13,429 --> 02:48:11,359 but we need to listen to everybody 4118 02:48:14,950 --> 02:48:13,439 and we will eventually find out let's go 4119 02:48:18,070 --> 02:48:14,960 back to the phones hi you're live on 4120 02:48:22,309 --> 02:48:21,110 hey pete pete where are you calling from 4121 02:48:24,309 --> 02:48:22,319 pete yeah 4122 02:48:26,790 --> 02:48:24,319 i'm calling from ohio brother all right 4123 02:48:28,550 --> 02:48:26,800 man what's on your mind tonight 4124 02:48:30,150 --> 02:48:28,560 well i got two things real quick i don't 4125 02:48:32,389 --> 02:48:30,160 want to take up a lot of your time 4126 02:48:35,349 --> 02:48:32,399 first off yeah i i agree with you about 4127 02:48:37,750 --> 02:48:35,359 greer a lot of things that he says 4128 02:48:39,429 --> 02:48:37,760 just uh it seems a little bit out there 4129 02:48:40,309 --> 02:48:39,439 i mean grant you everybody's got their 4130 02:48:41,910 --> 02:48:40,319 own opinions 4131 02:48:43,990 --> 02:48:41,920 but it does come off like a matter of 4132 02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:44,000 fact and uh 4133 02:48:47,269 --> 02:48:45,359 and he really shouldn't do that but he 4134 02:48:49,990 --> 02:48:47,279 does come off that way that's right 4135 02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:50,000 um but listening to everybody else you 4136 02:48:54,070 --> 02:48:50,560 know 4137 02:48:56,950 --> 02:48:54,080 uh listening to you 4138 02:48:59,269 --> 02:48:56,960 um listening to all the stories and 4139 02:48:59,910 --> 02:48:59,279 stuff i do my own little investigations 4140 02:49:04,070 --> 02:48:59,920 into the 4141 02:49:05,990 --> 02:49:04,080 own opinions of course 4142 02:49:07,990 --> 02:49:06,000 without the true facts that's all that's 4143 02:49:11,269 --> 02:49:08,000 all everything is an opinion 4144 02:49:13,510 --> 02:49:11,279 um but my ques my question that does not 4145 02:49:15,110 --> 02:49:13,520 have anything concerned with uavs is 4146 02:49:17,429 --> 02:49:15,120 the music that you play during your 4147 02:49:20,070 --> 02:49:17,439 intros is that your music 4148 02:49:21,590 --> 02:49:20,080 uh that what at the very beginning of 4149 02:49:23,670 --> 02:49:21,600 the show 4150 02:49:24,870 --> 02:49:23,680 yeah okay at the beginning yes i wrote 4151 02:49:33,110 --> 02:49:24,880 that 4152 02:49:36,389 --> 02:49:33,120 music 4153 02:49:40,070 --> 02:49:36,399 uh to space boy and so 4154 02:49:43,349 --> 02:49:40,080 space boy uh it's spaceboy's 4155 02:49:45,670 --> 02:49:43,359 cover of my original 4156 02:49:46,790 --> 02:49:45,680 song that was on an album that i did and 4157 02:49:48,790 --> 02:49:46,800 he he 4158 02:49:49,830 --> 02:49:48,800 he read that he redid it like three 4159 02:49:51,990 --> 02:49:49,840 times so 4160 02:49:56,790 --> 02:49:52,000 actually this is what's funny it's a 4161 02:50:01,670 --> 02:49:59,510 but yeah i wrote it i wrote it and uh 4162 02:50:04,230 --> 02:50:01,680 i'm trying to think of 4163 02:50:06,070 --> 02:50:04,240 what that song was called i would have 4164 02:50:10,550 --> 02:50:06,080 to go back and look at 4165 02:50:13,830 --> 02:50:10,560 the uh the files um but that was called 4166 02:50:15,510 --> 02:50:13,840 uh what was that call oh i think the 4167 02:50:18,710 --> 02:50:15,520 song was called 4168 02:50:24,309 --> 02:50:18,720 no cheese 4169 02:50:26,389 --> 02:50:24,319 yes well yeah that's what it was called 4170 02:50:28,870 --> 02:50:26,399 it was called no cheese 4171 02:50:29,590 --> 02:50:28,880 that's the title yeah there you go hey 4172 02:50:32,550 --> 02:50:29,600 pete man 4173 02:50:34,710 --> 02:50:32,560 thank you but you i love what you just 4174 02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:34,720 said right there 4175 02:50:40,950 --> 02:50:38,319 without facts it's just 4176 02:50:41,750 --> 02:50:40,960 ideas right that's that's all it is you 4177 02:50:45,910 --> 02:50:41,760 know 4178 02:50:48,790 --> 02:50:45,920 which is fun which is fine my ideas 4179 02:50:49,830 --> 02:50:48,800 yours my theories your theories dr grier 4180 02:50:53,110 --> 02:50:49,840 whatever 4181 02:50:56,469 --> 02:50:53,120 dolan linda well it doesn't matter lou 4182 02:50:58,309 --> 02:50:56,479 um until we have the hard facts 4183 02:50:59,910 --> 02:50:58,319 then we're just listening to everybody 4184 02:51:01,429 --> 02:50:59,920 and trying to figure this out that's all 4185 02:51:03,590 --> 02:51:01,439 we're doing 4186 02:51:05,910 --> 02:51:03,600 that's correct that is correct brother 4187 02:51:09,110 --> 02:51:05,920 pete what part of ohio 4188 02:51:11,510 --> 02:51:09,120 what part of ohio good night i'm 4189 02:51:14,150 --> 02:51:11,520 uh straight out of mansfield area 4190 02:51:17,990 --> 02:51:14,160 mansfield ohio 4191 02:51:18,550 --> 02:51:18,000 yeah cleveland oh that's about an hour 4192 02:51:22,070 --> 02:51:18,560 away 4193 02:51:23,429 --> 02:51:22,080 yeah exactly right on man i go up there 4194 02:51:26,150 --> 02:51:23,439 to little italy that has 4195 02:51:26,630 --> 02:51:26,160 good italian food mansfield's no joke 4196 02:51:29,590 --> 02:51:26,640 man 4197 02:51:31,990 --> 02:51:29,600 i love that town hey pete enjoy yourself 4198 02:51:33,990 --> 02:51:32,000 man thank you for the phone call 4199 02:51:35,750 --> 02:51:34,000 yes sir go backwards that's what i'm 4200 02:51:36,710 --> 02:51:35,760 talking about right there pizza fade or 4201 02:51:40,070 --> 02:51:36,720 not 4202 02:51:41,670 --> 02:51:40,080 be safe out there pete you too 4203 02:51:43,190 --> 02:51:41,680 that's a great phone call thank you so 4204 02:51:45,990 --> 02:51:43,200 much 4205 02:51:46,630 --> 02:51:46,000 it's the one thing that pete just said 4206 02:51:50,150 --> 02:51:46,640 there 4207 02:51:53,750 --> 02:51:50,160 that i have asked everybody to do 4208 02:51:57,830 --> 02:51:53,760 just listen to everybody i'm not right 4209 02:51:59,830 --> 02:51:57,840 nobody's right we don't have a clue 4210 02:52:01,670 --> 02:51:59,840 we honestly don't have a clue i was 4211 02:52:04,950 --> 02:52:01,680 listening uh 4212 02:52:07,349 --> 02:52:04,960 uh to some stuff over the weekend 4213 02:52:09,670 --> 02:52:07,359 and i love listening to physicists and 4214 02:52:12,070 --> 02:52:09,680 and how they theorize on this stuff 4215 02:52:14,309 --> 02:52:12,080 and and this particular physicist i 4216 02:52:17,830 --> 02:52:14,319 don't want to say who it was um 4217 02:52:21,349 --> 02:52:17,840 said you know honestly when it comes to 4218 02:52:24,469 --> 02:52:21,359 uh extraterrestrial intelligence 4219 02:52:27,990 --> 02:52:24,479 um we don't we don't have any idea 4220 02:52:30,870 --> 02:52:28,000 wherever they are out in front of 4221 02:52:31,190 --> 02:52:30,880 us we don't understand it we don't have 4222 02:52:34,630 --> 02:52:31,200 a 4223 02:52:37,990 --> 02:52:34,640 it's 4224 02:52:41,269 --> 02:52:38,000 probably going on but we don't know and 4225 02:52:44,389 --> 02:52:41,279 that's that's that's honest 4226 02:52:44,950 --> 02:52:44,399 i'm actually okay with that that's like 4227 02:52:47,110 --> 02:52:44,960 the most 4228 02:52:48,150 --> 02:52:47,120 valid thing that you could say it's 4229 02:52:51,349 --> 02:52:48,160 going on 4230 02:52:52,230 --> 02:52:51,359 it has to be the life has to be out 4231 02:52:55,590 --> 02:52:52,240 there 4232 02:52:56,309 --> 02:52:55,600 but wherever they are it's beyond where 4233 02:52:58,950 --> 02:52:56,319 we are 4234 02:53:00,230 --> 02:52:58,960 we we just wouldn't understand it this 4235 02:53:02,230 --> 02:53:00,240 is fade to black i 4236 02:53:03,670 --> 02:53:02,240 am your host jimmy church what a great 4237 02:53:04,580 --> 02:53:03,680 show tonight i want to thank danny 4238 02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:04,590 sheehan 4239 02:53:09,269 --> 02:53:05,760 [Music] 4240 02:53:10,710 --> 02:53:09,279 show of the year it just may be 4241 02:53:12,550 --> 02:53:10,720 i want to remind everybody tomorrow 4242 02:53:16,150 --> 02:53:12,560 night live from roswell 4243 02:53:17,910 --> 02:53:16,160 right here don schmidt that's tomorrow 4244 02:53:19,590 --> 02:53:17,920 night fade to black is produced by rita 4245 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